Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/22/2007 at 09:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I had thought the lockout occurred even before the first invocation >of Allocation. You're right, the Initiator does the ENQ for JCL. Allocation does it for SVC 99, although I don't recall whether it i

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 May 2007 07:54:03 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>As far as I know, this job will run without error even if the owner >>has ACCESS=NONE to SYS1.WHATEVER. But for nearly three hours other >>users will be unable to allocate SYS1.WHATEVER. There ought to be >>enforcement of a r

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/15/2007 at 10:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >As far as I know, this job will run without error even if the owner >has ACCESS=NONE to SYS1.WHATEVER. But for nearly three hours other >users will be unable to allocate SYS1.WHATEVER. There ought to

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
""Ted MacNEIL"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] -cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>... > >> Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ > >> on protected data set names? > > > >It does: via the restriction who can read or update the dataset

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
>On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:03:56 -0500, Paul Gilmartin ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ >on protected data set names? > >-- gil > RACF will support you creating a new CLASS and defining whatever resource you want. As another pos

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ >> on protected data set names? >It does: via the restriction who can read or update the dataset, ain't it? No. It does not. You can grab a DSN with old or share, without opening it. The read/update is not checked until

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 May 2007 07:04:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> >>Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job >>or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle >>it approp

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On 5/15/2007 10:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not s

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:25:39 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> > >> Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users >> who may ENQ >> on protected data set names? > >Wrong question. The proper question could possibly be: "Why doesn't >ALLOCATION or maybe ENQ issue a RACF query to determine

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS > > > On Tue, 15 May 2

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:03:56 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> >>Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job >>or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then >>handle it appropriately.

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > > >Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job > >or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and the

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job >or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle >it appropriately. > Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users w

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hello Basically if you are in ISPF 3.4 and get the message "Allocated to another user" Try hitting PF1 (Help) once or twice. It should show you who has the file. Then you either need to have that user cancelled, or you call the user and ask them to free the Data set. Second option is to issue

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"TomCheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > When I try to open the dataset using ispf 3.4, it says the dataset is > being used by others. > I can find out who is using the dataset. May I know what can I do to > release the dataset from the user? > > Thanks for