Re: SSI experience

2006-05-31 Thread Victor Gil
Ed, My tests indicate that DYNALLOC is in fact colliding on SYSZTIOT with the SSI Open/Close logic. Could you elaborate a bit on how exactly your BPAM subsystem avoids the collison? Thanks! -Victor- On Wed, 3 May 2006 14:59:35 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote:

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-31 Thread Edward Jaffe
Victor Gil wrote: My tests indicate that DYNALLOC is in fact colliding on SYSZTIOT with the SSI Open/Close logic. Could you elaborate a bit on how exactly your BPAM subsystem avoids the collison? That information might be proprietary. I'll have to check into this. I'll get back to you

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-31 Thread J R
Judicious use of S99TIONQ? Maybe use S99CNENQ first? From: Victor Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSI experience Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:09:46 -0500 Ed, My tests indicate that DYNALLOC is in fact

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-31 Thread Tom Schmidt
something else at PSI. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI From: Victor Gil Subject: Re: SSI experience Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:09:46 -0500 Ed, My tests indicate that DYNALLOC is in fact colliding on SYSZTIOT with the SSI Open/Close logic. Could you elaborate a bit on how exactly your BPAM

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2006 at 01:30 AM, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I haven't tried this on zOS, but in the eighties we investigated making Wylbur compressed data sets transparent to the user, by using SSI routines. Wasn't there already a subsystem on the CBT tape

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
Victor, Chapter 25 of MVS Programming Authorized Assembler Services Guide describes (such as it is) the use of DYNALLOC as well as some suggested restrictions. There are a few places where they recommend against the use of DYNALLOC with several of those cases being the intersection of

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-04 Thread Victor Gil
Tom, Thanks again for your invaluable input. Suppose the DYNALLOC is still restricted from being issued from within the SSI Open - it can be easily deferred up to the first GetPut request [although at this time I wouldn't be able to correctly inform the user had the file failed to allocate or

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-04 Thread J R
Maybe they could assign a group of college co-op students to the task? Careful! According to legend, that's the kind of thing that begat IEHMOVE. From: Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSI

SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Gil, Victor x28091
First of all, I'd like to thank everybody who helped me with the subsystem documentation and debugging, especially, Sam Knutson, Tom Schmidt and Binyamin Dissen - your input was much appreciated. Let me also share some of the experience [for the archive]: a) Contrary to the doc Using the SSI, do

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Tony Harminc
Thanks for updating us on your experiences, Victor. Can you tell us what you're doing with this SSI experiment? Whatever it is, I'm curious if you also looked at the UNIX PFS (Physical File System) APIs as a way of implementing your application. Tony H.

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Victor Gil
Tony, This was a pilot project for a much larger undertaking described earlier in http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0603L=ibm- mainP=R72543I=1X=21DAFC1EBEDB03E70AY=Victor_Gil%40adp.com I did not look at UNIX because the data to be masked is currently accessed either through batch or via

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 3 May 2006 16:45:33 -0500, Victor Gil wrote: ... I did not look at UNIX because the data to be masked is currently accessed either through batch or via dynamic allocation. Now I am going to move all the I/O logic to a subtask [attached by OPEN, detached by CLOSE] so that all the business

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Schmidt wrote: You aren't planning on (or needing to be) doing dynamic allocation within the SSI Open/Close routines, are you? We have a subsystem that emulates BPAM for a proprietary library system that does just that! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Victor Gil
Tom, I was thinking of doing dynalloc in the subtask attached by Open. Why? Any sort of ENQ I should be aware of? I've seen products that parse the SUBSYS dd and perform dynamic allocation. -Victor- On Wed, 3 May 2006 16:56:14 -0500, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Victor, You

Re: SSI experience

2006-05-03 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Victor Gil wrote: I was thinking of doing dynalloc in the subtask attached by Open. Why? Any sort of ENQ I should be aware of? I've seen products that parse the SUBSYS dd and perform dynamic allocation. I haven't tried this on zOS, but in the eighties we investigated making Wylbur