Re: STP and Time Change

2011-11-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:43 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: If so, then I think our only option would be to shutdown the LPARs at 1am (12:59) and then when it is the time, IPL so that 1am is only seen once by this application. The application itself cannot be down for 1 hour. POLITICS. Did

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-11-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
If so, then I think our only option would be to shutdown the LPARs at 1am (12:59) and then when it is the time, IPL so that 1am is only seen once by this application. The application itself cannot be down for 1 hour. POLITICS. Did you survive? How? We shut down the LPARs for one hour.

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-11-06 Thread Ed Gould
Gil, At one place I worked we had a similar situation. The application was an online system. I was not involved with it other than we Were told that the application was written such that it would not tollerate the hour shift so every spring and fall the system would shut down for 1 hour. The

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-11-01 Thread Hal Merritt
:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: STP and Time Change We just implmeneted (it is only a couple of days old) the STP on our z10s. We have an application dependent on LOCAL time. So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think this application will see 1am twice and have problems. So

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:57:33 -0700, Scott Ford wrote: Yep, I know that I have never heard of STP, I dont use STP on z/OS , no real need. I have used the NTPD on various Unix platforms. STP is Server Time Protocol. It replaced the function of the 9037 Sysplex Timer, and IIRC it became

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:43 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: We have an application dependent on LOCAL time. So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think this application will see 1am twice and have problems. If the application uses local time and will have problems during the second hour

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:17:00 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:43 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: If so, then I think our only option would be to shutdown the LPARs at 1am (12:59) and then when it is the time, IPL so that 1am is only seen once by this application. The

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: I can imagine an operating rule that deems that application so critical that it can be shut down only when it is necessary to shut down the LPARs for service, as silly as it sounds to me.  I suppose this might even be

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-31 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/31/2011 8:17 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: If the application uses local time and will have problems during the second hour between 1:00 and 2:00, you will have to shut the application down for an hour. Unless the time requests are used for interval calculations, it should be possible to

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-30 Thread Scott Ford
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: STP and Time Change In 1319835343.11223.yahoomail...@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on 10/28/2011   at 01:55 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Your talking about NTP ...the daemon on Unix that provides the correct time

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1319835343.11223.yahoomail...@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on 10/28/2011 at 01:55 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Your talking about NTP ...the daemon on Unix that provides the correct time from Atomic clock sites ? NTP is a protocol. I believe that the daemon is ntpd. --

STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
We just implmeneted (it is only a couple of days old) the STP on our z10s. We have an application dependent on LOCAL time. So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think this application will see 1am twice and have problems. So, is this correct, that if we do not use an IPL the STP will adjust

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:43 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: If so, then I think our only option would be to shutdown the LPARs at 1am (12:59) and then when it is the time, IPL so that 1am is only seen once by this application. The application itself cannot be down for 1 hour. POLITICS. I'm

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread Scott Ford
...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: STP and Time Change We just implmeneted (it is only a couple of days old) the STP on our z10s. We have an application dependent on LOCAL time.  So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think this application

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread Field, Alan C.
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 15:18 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: STP and Time Change We just implmeneted (it is only a couple of days old) the STP on our z10s. We have an application dependent on LOCAL time. So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread Neubert, Kevin
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: STP and Time Change We just implmeneted (it is only a couple of days old) the STP on our z10s. We have an application dependent on LOCAL time. So when the clock changes on Nov 6, we think

Re: STP and Time Change

2011-10-28 Thread George Kozakos
So, is this correct, that if we do not use an IPL the STP will adjust the mainframe at 2am to 1am? In which case my bad application will see the 1am hour again. The DST change will happen at 2am if you select Automatically adjust on the Adjust Time Zone Offset panel (Timing Network - Adjust Time