Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 10:52 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That last sentence is the most attractive part of all. IBM-MAIN is like a mine field. You have to know who to trust. I'd say that you have to know how to verify the answers for your specific environment.

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 03:50 PM, Robinson, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, perhaps if IBM did not charge like blue fury for easy how to questions, then people would not be forced to mask it as a defect in order to get an easy answer (that is more than likely in the manual,

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-23 Thread David Alcock
When I attempted to report in a PMR a deficiency in ISRDDN which I perceived as a problem, IBM Support's response included: 3) ISRDDN was designed for use by IBM service. ISRDDN is a utility that assists IBM support in evaluating and solving problems, according to the user

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia
I hope this list is for dump as well as the smart people. It only takes a dump question to get the smart one to answer. I always like to use TSO ISRDDN to free my dataset. Check it out as I found a lot of users do not know of this. I have been questioned by the security team is this a tool for

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia said: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:59:53 +0800 I hope this list is for dump as well as the smart people. It only takes a dump question to get the smart one to answer. I always like to use TSO ISRDDN to free my dataset. Check it out as I found

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Phil King
Seeing that the original poster asked how to unallocate a dataset, it is interesting that nobody mentioned UNALLOC! For those that are not familiar with UNALLOC, it is an alias of FREE, and possibly easier to remember because it is so clearly the reverse of ALLOC. On one system I heard of, FREE

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Richards.Bob
. Make a friend and save a future phone call. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. I hope

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Richards.Bob
Oops, meant *SHOULD NOT* Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. Shane, No argument here. I

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia
Of Richards.Bob Sent: Friday, 22 July 2005 5:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. ISRDDN is no more a sysprog tool than LISTA. Sure, it has more functionality, but what are you afraid of? That your users might screw up some datasets? There are lots of ways for them to do

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset./ISRDDN

2005-07-22 Thread Alan C. Field
I think ISRDDN is more mainstream now than when it first became available. I learned the other day on ths very list that DDLIST on the command line of ISPF does the same thing. Looks like its been integrated in to ISPF. Alan

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Howard Rifkind
Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. ... FREE DA('mydatasetname') Doesn't work if dataset is open. ... Why are such basic questions popping up? If you don't knoww low-level commands, I hope you are not touching my

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Howard Rifkind
Sorry Ted, I'm the only here so we ain't got no choice. Installed CICSTS 2.3 and a number of other products and all is up and running. We haven't IPLed the system of over 90 days now and the only reason we did that was to shift cables in the computer room. Is this quality IBM code? I don't

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Mark Thomen
Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... When I'm in a bind and need a quick sound answer, this is the place to come since the IBM support center will not talk to you about how to do problems and sending ETR's out on IBM Link some time takes a 24 hour turn

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Thomen [ snip ] There is a QA queue based out of Toronto where they deal with how-to-do questions, and non-defect issues. It would be nice if people would not overload the defect queues with how-to-do

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/22/2005 10:29:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be nice if people would not overload the defect queues with how-to-do questions and instead subscribed to the QA service. We get way too many calls that overload our L2 people asking

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Thomen [ snip ] There is a QA queue based out of Toronto where they deal with how-to-do questions, and non-defect issues. It would be nice if people would not overload the defect queues

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/22/2005 11:31:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's called IBM-MAIN. Probably time to raise the rates again.Hmmm, maybe 12% would be inline. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Webster, Chris
Of Richards.Bob Sent: Friday, 22 July 2005 5:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. ISRDDN is no more a sysprog tool than LISTA. Sure, it has more functionality, but what are you afraid of? That your users might screw up some datasets? There are lots of ways for them

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Mark Thomen
Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mark, I couldn't disagree with you more...that is about ETR's and other solutins. We agree to disagree You and I both have very large axes to grind, you at one end and me at the other end. My axe is that people

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Robinson, James
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Thomen Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mark, I couldn't disagree with you more...that is about ETR's and other

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Mark Thomen
Robinson, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, perhaps if IBM did not charge like blue fury for easy how to questions, then people would not be forced to mask it as a defect in order to get an easy answer (that is more than likely in the manual, but not easy

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Webster, Chris wrote: ISRDDN was added to the ISPF command tables as DDLIST at some point (as was DSLIST). DDLIST0 SELECT PGM(ISRDDN) NEWAPPL(ISR) SUSPEND SCRNAME(DDLIST) Formal documentation: Summary of Changes for z/OS 01.02.00 ISPF o

TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello all, I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but can anyone tell me how I can unallocate at dataset in ISPF option 6. Thanks - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name') -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TSO Unallocate Dataset. Hello all, I haven't had to do anything like this for a while

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Kirk Talman
:TSO Unallocate Dataset. Hello all, I haven't had to do anything like this for a while but can anyone tell me how I can unallocate at dataset in ISPF option 6. Thanks - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Richards.Bob
| NO) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:TSO Unallocate Dataset. Hello all, I haven't had to do anything like this for a while

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:48:30 -0400 Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name') I generally prefer to unallocate by DDNAME rather than by DSNAME, since if the data set is allocated multiple times

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all. Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:TSO FREE DATASET('your.dataset.name') -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TSO Unallocate Dataset. Hello all

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-21 Thread Taddei, Cathy
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset. ... FREE DA('mydatasetname') Doesn't work if dataset is open. ... Why are such basic questions popping up? If you don't knoww low-level commands, I