Re: Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-10 Thread R.S.
Tim Hare wrote: [...] We're trying to evaluate switching to Tape Mount Management versus virtual tape. This post is not about the pros or cons of doing it; rather we're trying to analyze what some of the costs are. [...] That's the point. IMHO you *cannot* skip the proscons analysis. It's

Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-08 Thread Tim Hare
I don't know if the rules of this list allow cost discussion - but I'm not asking for specific numbers, and I'm trying to avoid being specific about the vendor, so maybe it will slide? We're trying to evaluate switching to Tape Mount Management versus virtual tape. This post is not about the

Re: Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-08 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:24:32 -0400, Tim Hare wrote: If anyone has actual cost figures for their virtual tape box separately, could you give me a ballpark of what the ratio of the cost of the virtual compontents to the tape components should be so I can do a sanity check on what I'm hearing? I'm

Re: Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-08 Thread Tim Hare
I started this analysis thinking a robotic tape library was the way to go, but I've changed my mind. I can't see how anyone can justify physical tape anymore. Most virtual tape systems eventually write to physical tape as they internally perform hierarchical storage management. There's an

Re: Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Since we have the capacity on our DASD to provide a disk buffer for the sequential datasets we currently create on tape it's hard to see the benefit of going to a virtual tape rather than just a sequential dataset on disk. Is your 'disk buffer' on your enterprise disk? If so, how much does

Re: Virtual tape cost question

2007-06-08 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:42:25 -0400, Tim Hare wrote: Most virtual tape systems eventually write to physical tape as they internally perform hierarchical storage management. There's an OS that does HSM functions on a bunch of disk, and when the disk space gets full, the datasets representing