Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-15 Thread Jim McAlpine
Ah, well I was just checking the create date which remained at 1996. How does it do a delete and define without changing the create date. Jim McAlpine On 2/14/06, Mark Thomen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, we do have

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-15 Thread Bruce Black
How does it do a delete and define without changing the create date. When doing a SVC 26 DEFINE, the create date is one of the FPLs that can be passed (defaults to todays date) -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-14 Thread Jim McAlpine
Well, we do have the ptf for that apar applied but the EXPORT/IMPORT did not delete and redifine the catalog. But most importantly to me, the IMBED attribute was removed. Jim McAlpine On 2/13/06, Mark Thomen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Thomen
Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, we do have the ptf for that apar applied but the EXPORT/IMPORT did not delete and redifine the catalog. But most importantly to me, the IMBED attribute was removed. Actually, it DOES delete the catalog, because

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-13 Thread Jim McAlpine
To remove the IMBED attribute. Jim McAlpine On 2/10/06, Barry Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Managing Catalogs manual describes this sequence with a DELETE and a DEFINE between the export and import, so the import is into an empty catalog. In this case, jobs referencing the catalog

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-13 Thread John Ticic
The Managing Catalogs manual describes this sequence with a DELETE and a DEFINE between the export and import, so the import is into an empty catalog. In this case, jobs referencing the catalog would probably get upset. Why do you wnat to do this if you are not going to empty the catalog

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-13 Thread Bruce Black
You may want to review IBM info APAR II13354 on moving catalogs. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-13 Thread Barry Schwarz
But don't you have to delete and redefine to do that? Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To remove the IMBED attribute. Jim McAlpine On 2/10/06, Barry Schwarz wrote: The Managing Catalogs manual describes this sequence with a DELETE and a DEFINE between the export and import, so the

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-13 Thread Mark Thomen
Barry Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... But don't you have to delete and redefine to do that? No - APAR OA10952 will delete and redefine the catalog and load it without IMBED and/or REPLICATE. Thanks, Mark Thomen Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development

manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jim McAlpine
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manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jim McAlpine
Is it ok to do the following - LOCK CATALOG EXPORT CATALOG IMPORT CATALOG UNLOCK CATALOG while there are jobs referencing datasets in the said catalog, or should I wait until the work is quiesced. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Chase, John
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Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Larry Crilley
Jim, It sounds like you want to reorganize this catalog. What you have will work, but keep in mind that a LOCK will simply not allow access to the catalog. That is, the requester receives a non-zero return code and the request fails. If the catalog has entries for any online datasets, and

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jack Kelly
it's ok to do it but if any jobs want to access the catlog while its locked they'll get an error retrun code and usually abend. good news is that the import is very quick, if you use a dasd copy to import Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Barry Schwarz
The Managing Catalogs manual describes this sequence with a DELETE and a DEFINE between the export and import, so the import is into an empty catalog. In this case, jobs referencing the catalog would probably get upset. Why do you wnat to do this if you are not going to empty the catalog