z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-28 Thread Patrick Falcone
I'm currently working with/on SCRT for quite a few physical machines and about triple the amount of LPARs. Is there any easy way for me to find out what products might be on what LPARs for inclusion in the NO89 section? I've got the process working fine but now need to tailor the NO89 section fo

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:37:31 -0700, Patrick Falcone wrote: >I'm currently working with/on SCRT for quite a few physical machines and about triple the amount of LPARs. Is there any easy way for me to find out what products might be on what LPARs for inclusion in the NO89 section? I've got the proc

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information I'm currently working with/on SCRT for q

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick Falcone
ed, IBM's re-branded name. So I'll probably be flying by the seat of my pants. Hope the landing isn't too bad.   Thanks for your input. --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Richards, Robert B. wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Al Sherkow
I can't resist jumping in here. Especially since the Patrick included "Al, help!?" in his original post. I think it's true as Mark wrote that "Tivoli License Compliance Manager" can help with this task. But in the US that's $2000 per MSU for the OTC alone with the VUE007 conversion table. TLCM wil

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Al Sherkow Digest
Setting the NO89s to *ALL will just indicate to SCRT that you are running those products in every LPAR on every machine. Probably true for products like NetView, IBM's System Automation and their Scheduler. Lots of products once you commit to using them you need to run them everywhere. But for COBO

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
: robert.richa...@opm.gov - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Al Sherkow Digest Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:49:27 -0500, Al Sherkow Digest wrote: >Setting the NO89s to *ALL will just indicate to SCRT that you are running >those products in every LPAR on every machine. Exactly. IBM will be very very happy if you send them that report! Your management won't be when they get the

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Pat, A VERY ugly suggestion. Turn them all on with *ALL* and see what does not report anything. By the way, I have

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick Falcone
any savings if your box is too small.        -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Pat, A

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
a.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Thanks for all your input. You'll  have to excuse my ignorance with this stuff since my main charge is tuning and I just started to read the man

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick Falcone
ine what LPAR's are running the NO89 software that I get hits on.   I certainly have a firmer handle on this than I did at this time yesterday. Thanks again for all your input. --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: From: Pommier, Rex R. Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Info

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
See below; HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Thanks for all your input

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Joel Wolpert
case you will be billed for lpars that are not using the product; thereby increasing your costs. - Original Message - From: "Pommier, Rex R." Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Pat,

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>IBM knows what products you are licensed for. Since when? You don't want to know how many audits I have gone through with IBM Canada over the last 30 years!n - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Joel Wolpert
sday, July 29, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information >IBM knows what products you are licensed for. Since when? You don't want to know how many audits I have gone through with IBM Canada over the last 30 years!n - Too busy drivi

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Al Sherkow
I believe the fine print Ts&Cs indicate that if you specify that a product runs on one LPAR or any LPARs of a machine for which it is not licensed that IBM may view that as an order for the products. Similarly, for products that do generate SMF89 data, if SCRT detects a product on a machine where

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-29 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/29/2009 11:14:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, a...@sherkow.com writes: believe the fine print Ts&Cs indicate that if you specify that a product runs on one LPAR or any LPARs of a machine for which it is not licensed that IBM may view that as an order for the products.

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
l Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Al Sherkow Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information I believe the fine print Ts&Cs indicate that if you specify that a product runs o

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-30 Thread Patrick Falcone
                  Email: robert.richa...@opm.gov          - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Al Sherkow Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-30 Thread Hal Merritt
lpert Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information Correction: IBM is supposed to know what products you have. But even if you have *ALL for NO89 products that you do NOT have licenses to you can work with IBM to correct the bi

Re: z/OS SCRT NO89 Product Information

2009-07-31 Thread Jacky Hofbauer
All literature about SCRT is posted on IBM pricing website, Al website and other doc issued from CMG as Italia from Ottaviani. Sure, a strong reporting monthly revised by using Al tools or others will be powerfull to adapt SCRT parameter's and to control well this process. A second way is to appl