> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Shannon
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> > That section doesn't mention zIIP. A simple oversight?
> > That'd be my guess.
>
> I'm not so sure. Running on a zAAP requires knowing the
> "secret handshake". zIIP eligibility requires running
> That section doesn't mention zIIP. A simple oversight? That'd be my
> guess.
I'm not so sure. Running on a zAAP requires knowing the
"secret handshake". zIIP eligibility requires running in
an enclave, which in turn requires recoding the application.
zAAP eligibility is much easier (for an
I read the XML Statement of Direction again very carefully, and there's a
particularly interesting bit here:
"IBM intends to enhance the XML Toolkit for z/OS so that eligible workloads
may exploit the z/OS XML component — this extends zAAP exploitation to the
XML Toolkit for z/OS."
The XML Toolki
I guess so. But it would still be nice.
Mark Jacobs
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>That's a shame. I would
>That's a shame. I would love to propose we start using XML to store all
> our data. If it offloaded to the special CPU's we can really save $$$.
Consider: you're going to create it once, but parse it many times
thereafter. The more you read the data, the better the economics will be.
Tim Har
IBM is just taking care of the real expensive part of the operation.
XML parsing can crush the best of cpu's.
-Rob
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Mark Jacobs wrote:
>
> Is the zIIP/zAAP suport just for parsing XML documents or does the
> support
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Subject: Re: Fw: IS IBM COBOL dead or just not being upgraded
for z9? Re: z9 Hardware update
On 18 Apr 2007 11:59:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>Discussions are already "ongoing" as to whether we need to/should
>submit a LNGC project S
I should add to the information I posted earlier.
The information about Cobol 4 was based on an IBM Web document from
about a year ago when I was researching information on newer COBOL
releases, and which has since been taken off their website. So there
may not be a Cobol 4 / 64 bit version even
Mark Jacobs wrote:
Is the zIIP/zAAP suport just for parsing XML documents or does the support
also extend to the creation of XML?
Parsing only.
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On 18 Apr 2007 11:59:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>Discussions are already "ongoing" as to whether we need to/should submit a
>LNGC project SHARE requirement on either Decimal Floating point or zAPP/zIIP
>eligible XML support for COBOL.
>
>I'll keep this list informed when/if such
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Talman
>
> If Cobol is truly alive, why doesn't the 3.4.1 compiler
> support the "new"
> relative addressing and immediate instructions?
Because those aren't COBOL constructs?
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> for z9? Re: z9 Hardw
Perhaps the COBOL compiler builders feel that the code generated is
optimal without using relative branch or the other new instructions. Most
application programmers don't see the instruction-level code, nor do they
really need to. Most systems people would only worry about it if they
were a
If Cobol is truly alive, why doesn't the 3.4.1 compiler support the "new"
relative addressing and immediate instructions? Do we have to wait for
Cobol 4?
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> Discussions are already "ongoing" as to whether we need to/should submit
On 18 Apr 2007 12:24:38 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GAVIN Darren
* OPS EAS) wrote:
>Mainly as 1. Cobol solutions are few magnitudes easier to maintain in
>the long run, and that 2. Java left out native structures making it a
>pain to use in most cases. We do use some VB here and there.
There aren'
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Hardware update
On 18 Apr 2007 00:37:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>http://tinyurl.com/32lgs6
>
>Its not dead yet
Is the COBOL grou
Discussions are already "ongoing" as to whether we need to/should submit a
LNGC project SHARE requirement on either Decimal Floating point or zAPP/zIIP
eligible XML support for COBOL.
I'll keep this list informed when/if such requirements are ready for
"discussion"
P.S. My *personal* hope is tha
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> Sent: Wednesday 18 April 2007 10:34
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> Subject: IS IBM COBOL dead or just not being upgraded for z9?
> Re: z9 Hardware update
>
> On 18 Apr 2007 00:37:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>
On 18 Apr 2007 00:37:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>http://tinyurl.com/32lgs6
>
>Its not dead yet
Is the COBOL group in IBM on life support? There are announcements
for both XML an hardware decimal floating point yet no hint of COBOL
support
>
>For May availability
>
>Birger Heed
On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Schneiderwent, Craig wrote:
On z/OS 1.7 Strobe 3.03 indicates that a program that does little
else aside
from XML GENERATE spends 99+% of its time in module ".XMEMORY" section
".XMEMORX" which Strobe identifies as "EXTENDED CROSS MEMORY."
Maybe its attempting to
> Is the zIIP/zAAP suport just for parsing XML documents or does
> the support also extend to the creation of XML?
One does have to wonder what's going on inside of IGZCXML. On z/OS 1.7,
compiling a COBOL program containing XML GENERATE and XML PARSE statements
with the Enterprise COBOL 3.4.0
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 05:59, Jousma, David wrote:
> Well, Seems as our argument from a few days ago about what will run on a
> ZAAP is changing From the announcement below:
>
> z/OS XML to be enabled for both zAAP and zIIP specialty engines
>
> In z/OS V1.8, IBM introduced a new element o
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