Re: z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:15:22 -0500, Dave Butts wrote: > >Workload considerations aside for the moment, do you know if there is any >sizable amount of CPU lost due to overhead from running on the 8 subcapacity >engines compared to running on 5 full capacity physical engines only? You really can't se

Re: z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I'm sorry. I reread your original post, and I got the 2 turned around. I kept looking just at the 2 lines where you listed the model numbers, and just figured the first number was the number of engines. I see that the last digit is the number of engines. In answer to your question, each eng

Re: z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Workload considerations aside for the moment, do you know if there is any >sizable amount of CPU lost due to overhead from running on the 8 subcapacity engines compared to running on 5 full capacity physical engines only? 8 Engines lose more than 5 engines, but the MSU/MIPS ratings take this in

Re: z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Dave Butts
Thanks Eric, I appreciate the answer. I should clarify my question. I agree with you, except that the 705 being a 5-way with full capacity engines vs. a 508 being a 8-way with subcapacity engines. Workload considerations aside for the moment, do you know if there is any sizable amount of CPU los

Re: z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Since no one else has responded, I'll give this a try. As in anything performance oriented, it always depends on your workload. Since the 2 processors you listed are less than 1% different in total capacity, your workload is what will make the difference. Say you have 4 address spaces (CICS,

z9 subcap engine vs. full cap

2008-08-01 Thread Dave Butts
Regarding the z9, does anyone have a view on running subcapacity engines vs. full capacity engines? For example, considering the following: z9-508 has 352 MSUs (2613 MIPs) z9-705 has 363 MSUs (2633 MIPs) The 705 is using 5 full capacity PUs and the 508 is using 8 subcap PUs. Is there any notice