Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Linda
That is very sad. Poor fellow. For others, in other circumstances, sometimes things are well hidden even though they appear to be in plain sight. One particular system that I often had to log on to, I had written the password on a stickie posted to the front edge of my monitor. Or so folks t

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 1/22/2013 8:19 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Proving we mainframes are a pretty smart bunch ... Or maybe not? In the late nineties I was working as a contractor at the IRS, and one of my coworkers was an elderly gentleman whom I would categorize as an old, congenial grandfather. He had a problem

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Scott Ford
Linda, Proving we mainframes are a pretty smart bunch ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 22, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Linda wrote: > A bunch of years ago, I took my first UNIX class at t

Re: DS8300 HMC WEBUI logon is forced closed

2013-01-22 Thread Doug Shape
Thanks for the update! IBM - We too would really like to have the fix at the 64.xx code level. My 2 cents. Regards, Doug On Jan 22, 2013, at 4:39, David Devine wrote: > Just to give an update. > We have just started our annual l.m.c upgrade plan for our DS8300's and found > that the problem ha

Re: LOAD from ... SERVER option?

2013-01-22 Thread Harry Wahl
James, I use the "Load from Removable Media or Server" function on the HMC frequently, for many purposes. We run z9s, z10s and z196s. I always access HMCs via their web interfaces. All of our mainframes are in two sites 17 miles apart. They are mirrors of each other and except by special per

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Linda
A bunch of years ago, I took my first UNIX class at the local university. The instructor was pretty biased against mainframes in general. One of the first assignments was to set a password in the class UNIX system that she could not crack using cracker software. The password also had to have a

Re: DF/SORT, use parsed field as the sequence field ?

2013-01-22 Thread Tony B. AOL Mozilla
Thanks John, for the tip. You're sure closer to expert than I. Sri answered in detail but your direction was spot on. Again, embarrassment that I couldn't RTFM this myself. I've done quite a bit of OUTFIL OUTREC work but this is my first INREC example. It sure will come in handy in the fut

Re: DF/SORT, use parsed field as the sequence field ?

2013-01-22 Thread Tony B. AOL Mozilla
Works a treat. I'm embarrassed that I couldn't find this myself. Thank you Mr. Sri. It's like Yaeger never left. :-) On 1/22/2013 12:04 PM, Sri h Kolusu wrote: Tony, You need to use INREC to parse the record and specify the position to be sorted that you used on the BUILD statement.. C

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2013 09:10, Bill Ashton wrote: > One of my favorites is lollipop - 4 characters, one hand... There are more English words that are left hand only (on a QWERTY keyboard) than right. Fraser Street. Westward a great vast sea started. Awed, we gazed seaward - waves crested, ebbed. Bra

Re: LOAD from ... SERVER option?

2013-01-22 Thread John McKown
I can't think of a way to directly do what you want. Do you have control at the remote site? My thought (possibly insane) is to put up a PC running Linux which has two ethernet NICs. One the same "back-end network" as the SE. And one on the LAN segment that you're using to get to the HMC. On this L

LOAD from ... SERVER option?

2013-01-22 Thread Lund James E
Howdy, So, where to start... We have a co-located machine we are setting up for DR (CBU). In short, it is a warm site until we declare an official (or test) disaster and "make" it a hot site. Virtual tape system there is grid'ed to one locally, so tape backups are no more than 24 hours old. The

Re: SMS command via Batch

2013-01-22 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: I get the daily digest (as well as being behind on my reading) so this may have been hashed apart already. Using the SCDS named '*ACTIVE*' (quotes are required) in ISMF will provide the same information as the DISPLAY SMS console command. Issue your VARY then refresh the ISMF screen t

Re: DF/SORT, use parsed field as the sequence field ?

2013-01-22 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Tony, You need to use INREC to parse the record and specify the position to be sorted that you used on the BUILD statement.. Check this link which explains the order of processing for DFSORT http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA60/1.5.4? Example //STEP0100 EXEC PG

Re: DF/SORT, use parsed field as the sequence field ?

2013-01-22 Thread John McKown
I'm no expert! But it occurs to me that perhaps you could use the INREC to put the parsed data into a fixed location and SORT on that location. The use the OUTREC to strip out that inserted data. I have no idea if this is workable or not. I just thought I'd throw it into the ring. On Tue, Jan 22,

DF/SORT, use parsed field as the sequence field ?

2013-01-22 Thread Tony B. AOL Mozilla
Calling all DF/SORT experts: Is it possible to parse a field from the input record (which floats, of course, otherwise we wouldn't be parsing), and use the located field as the sort sequence? For example: OUTFIL FNAMES=SORTOUT, PARSE=(%22=(STARTAFT=C'something',ENDBEFR=C'else)',FIXLEN=10)), B

Re: What are values for LIBDEVTYPE ?

2013-01-22 Thread Bonaduce, Frank
Ted - My recollection of this (it's been awhile) is that the system will generate the information when a connection to the library is established. You can verify this by using either ISMF or an IDCAMS LISTC on the library entry. Frank. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: VTOC QUESTION

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 1/21/2013 8:16 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: I also allocate in Cylinders and not Tracks. Lizette It used to be worth while to allocate the VTOC so that the last track ended at the end of a cylinder regardless of where it started. This allowed multi-track search CCWs to be used. I don't know

Re: R statistical language.

2013-01-22 Thread David Crayford
A multi socket rack server with 24 cores costs peanuts these days. Probably less than the effort of porting R with the cost of the fortran license. And those parallel processing algorithms would probably run better on a NUMA architecture anyway. Horses for courses. On 22/01/2013, at 9:55 PM, Z

Password (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:57:43 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >Some of my users, before we enforced better (?) password rules and >regulations, some of my bored users were using one character/number password. >Nothing can beat that super extra-fast entry, but see below. ;-D > >(With ids only

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Bill Ashton
One of my favorites is lollipop - 4 characters, one hand... Billy On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > Phil Smith wrote: > > >And I remember when we were using a "common" password for some dev > resources (long ago and far away, and befor

What are values for LIBDEVTYPE ?

2013-01-22 Thread Ted Kempf
I am trying to create control cards to CREATE a LIRARYENTRY in my TCDB and I need to find out what the LIBDEVTYPE field options are. Does anyone know what the LIBDEVTYPE for a TS7720 and a 3952 would be ?? For that matter, does the LIBDEVTYPE field really matter ?? Ted ---

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Phil Smith wrote: >And I remember when we were using a "common" password for some dev resources >(long ago and far away, and before the Internet or any other connectivity!) >discovering that "RIFLEMAN" alternates hands on the keyboard, making for >extra-fast entry. Some of my users, before we

Re: R statistical language.

2013-01-22 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
The VS/Fortran (compiler and library) is indeed stuck in Fortran 77 and there seems to be no XL/Fortran for z/OS or even z/Linux.  It might be a quasi-interesting excercise compiling all the Fortran modules in the R source code in VS/Fortran (I suspect that most if not all will compile alright)

Passwords (was: slightly O/T but interesting)

2013-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:44:05 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >>The top 25 worst passwords, in order (and their current rankings compared >>with the previous year's rankings), are below. > >Could you be very kind to post any sources, just for the rest of us bored >sysprogs to enjoy it! ;-) > >

Re: Java Security?

2013-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:46:03 -0500, David Andrews wrote: >On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 13:35 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> Consider the Dartmouth/GE time >> sharing system, which ran on hardware with no memory protection, >> relying on array bounds checking by the FORTRAN and BASIC processors. >> Frus

Re: slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: >The top 25 worst passwords, in order (and their current rankings compared with >the previous year's rankings), are below. Could you be very kind to post any sources, just for the rest of us bored sysprogs to enjoy it! ;-) >9. 11 (up 3) Or or 333 , , etc 26.

Re: Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

2013-01-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/21/2013 at 12:10 PM, John McKown said: >I could go for your last: "limit SCP SCSI". Sorry; finger check. That should have been FCP SCSI. >Which include z/OS UNIX filesystems by default because z/OS UNIX >filesystems are implemented via VSAM LINEAR data sets. Well, zFS is, but the

Re: ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

2013-01-22 Thread Mark Jacobs
I'm going to be reading this response several times just so i understand it fully, but thanks I'd love your rexx exec. Mark Jacobs On 01/18/13 21:06, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Is this a key that already exists in your system, and one where you don't actually know what the key is (because its enc

Re: 0D7 with ATSET

2013-01-22 Thread Peter Relson
>> Does this mean a Space Switching PC cannot be used to remove the >> users access ? > > That is correct. Perhaps with the exception of the (somewhat atypical but allowed) PC-SS that is defined not to set new-SASN to old-PASN (ETDEF with SASN=NEW). Of course if using that approach you cannot u

slightly O/T but interesting

2013-01-22 Thread Phil Smith
Ed Gould wrote: >The top 25 worst passwords, in order (and their current rankings compared with >the previous year's rankings), are below. This is always fun. I remember being at Best Buy (yeah, I know, but sometimes ya gotta) and noticing that they make the cashiers log in for EACH CUSTOMER. F

Re: R statistical language.

2013-01-22 Thread David Crayford
On 22/01/2013 11:36 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote: Well I was not aware about that fact, so I downloaded the source code and indeed it uses Fortran - interesting, I may spend some time with that stuff. However, both IBM and GNU provide pretty advanced Fortran compilers, but it becomes more and more hai

Re: SMS COMMAND VIA BATCH

2013-01-22 Thread af dc
Hi Boris, you're right. I did have line in cols 73-80. Many thx,A.Cecilio On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Boris Lenz wrote: > On Mon, January 21, 2013 12:53, af dc wrote: > > H Boris, > > I'm not understanding why I'm getting the following error: > > > > # of MVS commands to issue: 1 > >

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-22 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> Gotta love that girl. Who else would have that on an AD/CD system - and know > why ?. Thanks Shane. But no, this was not on an ADCD system - we don't have enough DASD on the ADCD system to reserve one for sadump, much less several. Never mind that the DASD we have are mod3 (since ADCD is dist

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:49:00 +0100, Barbara wrote: >You've asked for it: > AMDSADMP IPL=D3390,VOLSER=xx, + > REUSEDS=ALWAYS,IPLEXIST=YES,+ > DUMP=('DSP OF ASID(ALL) ALSO PAGETABLES OF DATASPACES + >

Re: DS8300 HMC WEBUI logon is forced closed

2013-01-22 Thread David Devine
Just to give an update. We have just started our annual l.m.c upgrade plan for our DS8300's and found that the problem has been re-introduced with code bundle 64.36.63.0 L.M.C 5.4.36.140. So we had to go through the the port firewall enabling stuff again. Apparently the fix for the problem (CMVC