ECOBOL 5.1 - SYSPRINT MESSAGES

2013-11-12 Thread Eamon Cush
In ECOBOL v4.2 WARNING messages were always at the bottom of the SYSPRINT output. In v5.1 the messages come before the assembler listing which makes finding them a bit longer. Anyone else notice / have a concern about this ? The messages are displayed in the SYSTERM but its so much easier to

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread John Gilmore
Let's begin with queue-handling 101. A queue is a FIFO list. One adds elements to the rear of a queue and removes them from the front. Tony Harminc's implicit point, that these two operations can be serialized and done unproblematically, is correct beyond argument. There is never a requirement

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Kenneth Wilkerson
I use cell pools. I also use a proprietary storage manager that doesn't use chains. These methodology offer me capabilities well beyond those found in traditional methods. Much of what I do is based on these capabilities, but the algorithms could easily be adapted to use a conventional storage

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8420266817299524.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/11/2013 at 09:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Doesn't JES3 already provide a similar facility? No. DJC doesn't run parallel steps within a job, it handles dependencies among a network of separate jobs. --

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5756776272434376.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/11/2013 at 10:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Yet, I appeal to consistency. If some designer pranced into the room and announced, There's never any reason to skip the first step, so I'm designing IF so the

Re: JCL

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6418058376534651.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/11/2013 at 10:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: SYSOUT=8 is likewise shorter and more readable, and I needn't stretch to press the SHIFT key. Neither means the same as SYSOUT=(,), which uses the default class.

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjhH6D+uOVEtmxx4rOL=w2csasxtn8saahkj68g5wpg...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/11/2013 at 12:16 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I always got the feeling that orignal OS/360 JCL programmers either stole the parsing code from the then-existant assembler, or vice versa. If so,

Query processor weight.

2013-11-12 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello List! Does anyone know an easy way to query the processor weight for an LPAR? HWIQUERY would do the trick but it seems overcomplicated to have to use BCPii. Even the great Zelden doesn't have it in his IPLINFO rexx, so I would guess it is not that trivial. Thanks! Leo

Re: Query processor weight.

2013-11-12 Thread Rob Scott
You could intercept/post-process the SMF type 70 records. There used to be two unsupported/undocumented methods to get LPAR information - one was to use the Diagnose 204 instruction and the other was to sniff certain storage owned by RMF Monitor III. I believe the latest version of SHOWZOS has

Re: JCL

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:05:24 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: SYSOUT=8 is likewise shorter, more readable, and doesn't require leaning on the SHIFT key. SYSOUT=8 specifies SYSOUT class 8. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Query processor weight.

2013-11-12 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello Rob! Thank you very much for the information! Much appreciated, especially from someone with great knowledge like you. Thanks! Leo -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1384218943.19861.yahoomail...@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on 11/11/2013 at 05:15 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net said: Take for example:      L    R2,QUEUE      L    R3,NEXT_ENTRY     CS  R2,R3,QUEUE                    New queue head I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Did you

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7581281299781533.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/11/2013 at 08:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I suspect that it's something DFSMS jams into some control block (TIOT?) where those utilities expect to find DSNAME when DFSMS has allocated a PATH instead. The

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1285038259930504.wa.jmcd520gmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/11/2013 at 08:41 PM, John McDowell jmcd...@gmail.com said: However neither of your points can overcome the fact that ISPF, most (all?) TSO commands, IBM utilities (e.g. IEBUPDTE, etc.), etc. impose the (arguably artificial and

Re: JCL

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:32:42 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: SYSOUT=8 is likewise shorter and more readable, and I needn't stretch to press the SHIFT key. Neither means the same as SYSOUT=(,), which uses the default class. The default class or the msgclass? I said default, which might

Re: JCL

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:38:31 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:05:24 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: SYSOUT=8 is likewise shorter, more readable, and doesn't require leaning on the SHIFT key. SYSOUT=8 specifies SYSOUT class 8. Water is wet. -- gil

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:14:19 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Doesn't JES3 already provide a similar facility? No. DJC doesn't run parallel steps within a job, it handles dependencies among a network of separate jobs. But can those jobs run in parallel? If so, the desire for parallelism

Re: SNA vs TCP/IP

2013-11-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Robert Wessel robertwess...@yahoo.com writes: That's not a very valid comparison. SDLC is mostly a link level protocol; IP, UDP and TCP are not. In many cases there is considerable error recovery on links that IP is run over - if for no other reason than the end-to-end error recovery in TCP

Re: SNA vs TCP/IP

2013-11-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: a big issue with tcp throughput is slow-start as mechanism for congestion control/avoidance ... aka in enormously large heterogeneous network with dozens of hops end-to-end and bursty traffic ... there is relatively high probability of periodic

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-12 Thread CM Poncelet
Link-editing with AC=1 isn't enough. The module must also reside in an APF-authorized library; otherwise the AC=1 is ignored. However, his module could just be an 'innocent' changed version of an existing production one which he is now checking (or debugging) before it goes into prodution. So

D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread John Norgauer
After a long weekend with NO system changes(that I know of) when I issue D T, nothing else appears on the console. Any thoughts please. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 1651 Alhambra Blvd Suite 200

Re: D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 11:36 -0800, John Norgauer wrote: After a long weekend with NO system changes(that I know of) when I issue D T, nothing else appears on the console. Any thoughts please. Console not in roll mode? WTO buffers full?

Re: D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread John P Kalinich
John Norgauer of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 11/12/2013 01:36:50 PM: From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 11/12/2013 01:37 PM Subject: D T command gives no result. Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread John Eells
John Norgauer wrote: After a long weekend with NO system changes(that I know of) when I issue D T, nothing else appears on the console. Any thoughts please. snip Does it show up in SYSLOG/OPERLOG? -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-12 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/12/2013 2:20 PM, CM Poncelet wrote: There will always be 'risks' with APF'd libraries in the wrong hands. It's up to the security administrator to grant MVS SETPROG authority only to trusted developers. SETPROG seems like overkill. Many moons ago I modified a CBT contribution from Don

Re: D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread John Norgauer
Display of MPF MESSAGE ID -MPF SUPPRESS RETAIN AUTO TOKEN EXIT , .NO_ENTRY -00 NO YESYES , GENERAL WTO USER EXIT (IEAVMXIT) ACTIVE , SUBSYSTEMS RECEIVING FOREIGN MESSAGES AND DOMS: , *ALL , FIELD-MPF COLOR HLIGHT INTENFIELD-MPF COLOR HLIGHT INTEN ,

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-12 Thread Jim Mulder
//UNP EXEC PGM=AMATERSE,PARM=UNPACK [...] ** AMA572I STARTING TERSE DECODE UNPACK 20:08:51 11/07/2013 ** AMA527I INPUT - DDNAME : SYSUT1 DSNAME: ...PATH=.SPECIFIED... ** AMA583E INPUT DEVICE TYPE IS UNSUPPORTED ** AMA573I TERSE COMPLETE DECODE UNPACK 20:08:51

Query for SHARE blog -- Redbooks, residencies, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread Gabe Goldberg
I'm writing an article for SHARE blog -- http://www.share.org/p/bl/et/blogid=2 -- on Redbooks, Redpapers, Redguides, residencies (shouldn't they be Redidencies or some such?), workshops, and the ITSO (International Technical Support Organization) structure behind them.

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:31:24 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: TRSMAIN was an IBM internal tool which was written before the advent of PATH= in MVS. When TRSMAIN morphed into AMATERSE, there was no intention of adding PATH= support. AMATERSE does a DEVTYPE, and checks DVACLASS (in IHADVA mapping). If it

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-12 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
The listserv bounced the first version of this as a duplicate. Do they have a bug? On 11/12/2013 2:20 PM, CM Poncelet wrote: There will always be 'risks' with APF'd libraries in the wrong hands. It's up to the security administrator to grant MVS SETPROG authority only to trusted developers.

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Kenneth for the explanation. It's really good stuff. All the serialization that I've seen was prior to the PLO instruction. I now see that it has certainly improved our ability to serialize.  Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
The example was simply to show a point without using an involved sample. At a minimum, I should have included a USING for the queue entry. Sorry for the confusion. Jon Perryman. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 November 2013 18:31, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: It's curious looked at as a whole. The very existence of an AMA527I suggests that PATH= is supported; it's an I message (nothing wrong), and there must be code to discover that PATH= was specified. [...] TRSMAIN was an IBM internal

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread David Crayford
Thanks for sharing your design Ken. It seems to me that PLO is best used for data structures like double-ended queues where elements can be inserted/removed from both ends of the queue atomically. In the case of a read-often-write-rarely list with multiple readers that traverse the list it

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Kenneth Wilkerson
Actually, the algorithm performs well for read-often, write-rarely list because the active chain count does not change and therefore there are relatively infrequent re-drives. The active chain count only changes on an add or delete. So if there are infrequent adds and deletes, there will be

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-12 Thread CM Poncelet
I received the first version of this OK. Thanks for the info: I have nothing more to add to it. Chris Poncelet Gerhard Postpischil wrote: The listserv bounced the first version of this as a duplicate. Do they have a bug? On 11/12/2013 2:20 PM, CM Poncelet wrote: There will always be

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread David Crayford
On 13/11/2013 12:34 PM, Kenneth Wilkerson wrote: Actually, the algorithm performs well for read-often, write-rarely list because the active chain count does not change and therefore there are relatively infrequent re-drives. The active chain count only changes on an add or delete. So if there

php and the Marist Mainframe

2013-11-12 Thread Cameron Seay
Does anyone who uses the Marist Academic Initiative system connect to DB2 using php? If so, what is the connection syntax you use? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: D T command gives no result.

2013-11-12 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 21:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: D T command gives no result. John Norgauer wrote: After a long weekend with NO system