Re: HMC operation: Groups andGroups

2013-11-14 Thread Skip Robinson
The answer is still yes. First create a Load profile for each LPAR for each IPL mode, such as production, SAD, or whatever. Give each Profile a meaningful name and set the load address and loadparm in each profile for that IPL mode. Do the same for alternate sysres packs. Create a group cal

Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Mitch
Charles: JCLCHECK is like the Yugo of JCL tools. It is a very basic syntax checker. JOL is likely an OK tool, but does not contain the feature-rich capabilities of other products on the market. Mitch -Original Message- From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Nov 14, 2013 5:51

Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Mitch
J R: Yes, it goes far beyond z/OS. It can clone JCL for multiple environments, it can generate JCL from COBOL source programs as the source objects are built, it can verify that the DD statements in a JCL stream match the FDs in a COBOL program, it can ensure that if you don't allow DCB in a D

Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Charles Mills
I think Mitch and JR are speaking about some JCL front-end commercial product such as CA JCLCheck. I was looking for a response about JOL from its author. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Thursday, Nov

Re: SET IBM-Main NOMAIL

2013-11-14 Thread efinnell15
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Re: SET IBM-Main NOMAIL

2013-11-14 Thread Mike Schwab
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Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/14/2013 at 03:26 PM, Tony Harminc said: >If you don't want to patent, but also don't want others to patent >your invention, you can publish in a place that gets reasonable >exposure, The point of a defensive patent is to avoid expensive litigation, not to win it. Unless the USPTO s

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2013-11-14 Thread efinnell15
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Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 November 2013 09:26, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >at 08:40 PM, David Crayford said: > >>Or patents! I notice IBM have quite a few wrt PLO. > > Could they be defensive patents? The only really effective way to > prevent someone else from patenting a technique that you're using is > t

Re: HMC operation: Groups andGroups

2013-11-14 Thread JoAnn Kulcyk
I know that we can create separate Groups, but what we really want to do is to create separate instances of the existing images in the existing "CPC Images" group. The new instances would use the stand alone dump load profile. Can we do that and, if so, how? ---

Re: HMC operation: Groups andGroups

2013-11-14 Thread Greg Dorner
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Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread J R
So, as far as what ends up being submitted to z/OS is concerned, your competitive product does not provide any functionality that isn't already available with z/OS JCL? = = > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:08:36 -0500 > From: mitc...@aol.com > Subject: Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - Wh

Re: SET IBM-Main NOMAIL

2013-11-14 Thread efinnell15
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2013-11-14 Thread Tom Sims
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Re: Global Mirror for DR

2013-11-14 Thread Tom Sims
Thanks everyone, as usual, for your timely and enlightening responses (Skip, your advice is always at the very least, germane!). Tom Sims -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...

Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Mitch
Charles (et al): In regards to the competitive product I have been alluding to, it DOES generate "traditional" (real) z/OS JCL. Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant www.lcmg.us -Original Message- From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Nov 14, 2013 8:22 am Subject: Re

Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Charles Mills
I'm curious -- and if someone wants to reply RTFM I guess it would be deserved -- how the product "integrates" with core/"traditional"/IBM-authored z/OS. Does it generate "real" JCL under the covers, or does it have its own started task that acts in a role parallel to the appropriate "normal" z/

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5284c4bc.5000...@gmail.com>, on 11/14/2013 at 08:40 PM, David Crayford said: >Or patents! I notice IBM have quite a few wrt PLO. Could they be defensive patents? The only really effective way to prevent someone else from patenting a technique that you're using is to file first. Unless and

Re: Global Mirror for DR

2013-11-14 Thread Skip Robinson
That terminology morass is the reason for my declaration of terms. When we started mirroring for DR, we ran ESCON over traditional channel extenders. We did not think we could tolerate the effects synchronous delays in PPRC. Now we run FICON over DWDM in a configuration that might be suitable fo

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/09543223903/joel-spolsky-stackexchange-thwarts-broad-microsoft-patent-app-using-microsofts-own-prior-art.shtml Submit Prior Art to U.S. Patent office Appilications http://patents.stackexchange.com/ On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kenneth Wilkerson wrote

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-14 Thread Scott Fagen
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BBC News - Meet the robot that teaches coding

2013-11-14 Thread efinnell15
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Re: Jol - Next Generation JCL- was JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-14 Thread Mitch
Clem: Good morning. So, how many customers use this product? Does it interface with the various change management tools? What about keyword and subparameter substitution for various site/environment requirements? What about format/structure changes so that the JCL is consistent across all m

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread Kenneth Wilkerson
I'm with you on patents. I came across an IBM patent yesterday that was dated 2009 describing a lock-free storage manager using cell pools to manage variable length storage. I invented my first one 30 years ago using CAS. It was writing a more sophisticated version 10 years ago that led to my res

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-14 Thread David Crayford
On 14/11/2013 12:23 AM, Kenneth Wilkerson wrote: If I read the article you sent correctly, this algorithm is using a spin lock. It has provision for implementing a lock-free algorithm but none of those are detailed. Most of the shared_ptr implementations in the wild, including z/OS, use a lock

Re: OSA Server not binding with TCP/IP - Resolved

2013-11-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Case resolved. >A colleague in the z/OS TCP/IP Team asked me to post on his behalf. He tried another port to see and it that server worked. My RACF add-on tool showed me it was another TCP/IP stack on that sandbox which was holding that port. (despite the fact you c