Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Maybe via SMF records ? On 21.11.2013 13:48, Robin Atwood wrote: I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data set last changed. For non-VSAM it's easy (if a bit vague), there's the last reference date in the F1 DSCB. For VSAM you can see a SYSTEM-TIMESTAMP in the

Is there any relation between IXGLOGR and SMF?

2013-11-22 Thread mvsmain
Dear all Our shop is z/OS 1.13+CICS 4.2+DB 10 with 6 members parallel sysplexs. SMF don't use logstream. SMF data always is writed to SYS1.MANX. If we change the interval of SMF, we found that IXGLOGR always use CPU following SMF interval Please see the RMF III report below.

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread retired mainframer
The F1 DSCB does contain a flag, DS1IND02, which indicates a dataset has been opened for other-than-input. This is the flag that alerts your backup software that the dataset needs a backup. The backup software will reset this flag. If you run your synchronization check prior to the backup

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
Interesting idea but the information is needed during a file transfer so analysing the SMF records might be a bit lengthy! I have just noticed that ISPF 3.4 'S' line command gives you a last reference date for the DATA component. This would be better than nothing. Thanks Robin -Original

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
Thanks, that's very helpful. Thus prompted, I now notice that IGGCSI00 has a last backup timestamp field name (LTBACKDT), so with all these bits of information I should be able to determine if a sync with the workstation is necessary. Excellent stuff! Cheers Robin -Original Message-

Re: smf records for updating racf profiles

2013-11-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Walt Farrell wrote: Not quite right, Elardus, if he asked the right question. He asked about creating/updating/deleting *profiles*, not resources. Ouch. Thanks, I have overlooked that word 'proflies'. Yuck, my fault, but thanks again! :-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
One possibility, which is not simply by any means, is to use the SMF data in real time, with the SMF IEFU8x exits, to trap the SMF type 15 records (non-VSAM open for OUTPUT or UPDAT) and type 62 (VSAM cluster opened). With the type 62, you need to test SMF62MC1 to see if the open is for

Re: Extents limit for HFS (UNCLASSIFIED)

2013-11-22 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Don't know the -71, but -16 is the fixed portion of a TIOT entry. The rest of the 255 bytes can hold pointers to UCB's. Chris Blaicher Principal Software Engineer, Software Development Syncsort Incorporated 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 P: 201-930-8260 | M: 512-627-3803 E:

Re: Extents limit for HFS

2013-11-22 Thread John Gilmore
For the BLKSIZE= constraint mod(32760,8) = 0, mod(32767,8) ¬= 0. For the extents-per-volume question it is hard to see any basis for an alignment issue, and in any case both 123 and 127 are odd. (Of the two 123 is composite and 127 = 2^7 - 1 is a Mersenne prime, but this difference too is

OT: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing articles on IBM and others.

2013-11-22 Thread David Boyes
Given the recent discussion on early Fortran implementations and other historical stuff on IBMVM, you folks may want to hunt down the current issue of the IEEE Annals of the History of Computing (volume 35, #4). This issue contains a really good article on industry approaches in the early days

Re: Extents limit for HFS

2013-11-22 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
I was in a class a long time ago and the explanation at that time was as follows, to the best of my recollection. They can handle up to 127 extents, but any request for secondary can take up to 5 extents to satisfy it. The comment was that the developers didn't want to have to deal with the

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
Ingenious and it would be technically fascinating to try and implement! However I imagine it would be a bit of a hard sell to the customers. :) Thanks Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 22 November

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
Ah, my bad, I didn't realize this was not for an in-house type project. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Robin Atwood abend...@gmail.com wrote: Ingenious and it would be technically fascinating to try and implement! However I imagine it would be a bit of a hard sell to the customers. :)

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-22 Thread Staller, Allan
IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY. HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Extents limit for HFS

2013-11-22 Thread Bill Godfrey
This excerpt from an 8-31-2010 post by Alan Starr, in reply to a question from R.S. who also started the current thread: (begin quote) I believe that the answers to your questions may be found in the Data Extent Block (DEB) and the murky depths of history. Due to its age, its close connections

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
John is correct. Many scheduling products (CA Workload Automation/ESP, CA7, Jobtrac, etc) will monitor SMF data and have a function called a dataset trigger. If you have such a tool, then you could review if it could help in your situation. Otherwise, you will need to look at the SMF Exits.

Re: CHPID dynamic Activation error

2013-11-22 Thread Roger Steyn
Hello Jake , This actually means The system could not add the specified path to a path group. Is the cable connected properly ? That's the first thing to be checked . Also look at logrec data  Sounds to me like a no resources condition over the control unit . Try these commands a) DS

Re: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing articles on IBM and others.

2013-11-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The latest volume does not yet appear to be available electronically on the IEEE sites - latest available seems to be volume 35 #3. Do you have a link to #4? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Friday,

Managing the OMVS Root zFS FileSystem

2013-11-22 Thread Donald Likens
We have 5 isolated systems running clones of our z/OS operating system. Our current zFS root file system has not been controlled and now we are now using a Serverpac to upgrade. I am planning to implement the maintenance procedure at the bottom of this message but first here are my questions:

Re: Managing the OMVS Root zFS FileSystem

2013-11-22 Thread Jousma, David
See below -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Donald Likens Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Managing the OMVS Root zFS FileSystem We have 5 isolated systems running clones of

Re: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing articles on IBM and others.

2013-11-22 Thread Harry Wahl
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/tocresult.jsp?isnumber=5255174 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:26:51 -0500 From: peter.far...@broadridge.com Subject: Re: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing articles on IBM and others. To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU The latest

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Charles Mills
Robin - What checksum are you using that is too CPU intensive? Have you considered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MurmurHash ? It is about 4 to 8 times as fast as most hash schemes because (1) it is of non-cryptographic quality and (2) it operates on entire words at once, rather than bytes. You

Re: Extents limit for HFS

2013-11-22 Thread John Gilmore
Bill [Godfrey], Thank you. Alan Starr's explication is persuasive. It has the right sort of murky period flavor: a length value in doublewords kept in a byte! John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread efinnell15
There are tools to do this. Data Propagator and STRIVA come to mind. Overhead is pretty steep. In a message dated 11/22/13 08:32:31 Central Standard Time, abend...@gmail.com writes: However I imagine it would be a bit of a hard sell to the customers. :)

Re: Managing the OMVS Root zFS FileSystem

2013-11-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:13:34 -0600, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: We have 5 isolated systems running clones of our z/OS operating system. Our current zFS root file system has not been controlled and now we are now using a Serverpac to upgrade. I am planning to implement the

Re: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of Computing articles on IBM and others.

2013-11-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the link. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Harry Wahl Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Computer Industry Strategies: IEEE Annals of the History of

Fwd: Bloomberg: Druckenmiller Shorting IBM in Bet Cloud Computing to Win

2013-11-22 Thread Gabe Goldberg
He's also betting against Warren Buffet, of course... and against IBM technology providing cloud computing. From Bloomberg, Nov 22, 2013, 16:18:03 Stan Druckenmiller, who has one of the best track records in the hedge-fund industry over the past three decades, said he’s betting against the

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-22 Thread Mike Schwab
How about not until IBM tells you to? As in you must accept before apply this PTF? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY. HTH,

Re: CHPID dynamic Activation error

2013-11-22 Thread Jake anderson
Hello Roger, The output are as : COMMAND INPUT === /DS P,3000 SCROLL === CSR RESPONSE=DEV1 IEE459I 19.13.40 DEVSERV PATHS 065 UNIT DTYPE M CNT VOLSER CHPID=PATH STATUS RTYPE SSID CFW TC DFW PIN DC-STATE CCA DDC CYL CU-TYPE 03000,33903