Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYADO3kaXBOTJGmkWYxtxnvxbCgAAAEGGt6jX0G0VOiqkAfOxUsNsBAA==@comcast.net, on 06/27/2014 at 11:01 AM, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net said: I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain non-authorized TSO commands) because my

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYADO3kaXBOTJGmkWYxtxnvxbCgAAAEBrRtKaY6udHjgdam3VPu68BAA==@comcast.net, on 06/27/2014 at 09:57 AM, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net said: What if that code generates a PC rtn does TMP know of it No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

IKJ macro question

2014-06-29 Thread MichealButz
Hi, I have the following IKJ macros defined in my program for the IKJUNFKD I initially use a eight byte character program name if this program name proves to be Invalid I look for the user to re-enter a dsn where it could be found however I get a message back from the parser it's an invalid

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5647595856244223.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/28/2014 at 10:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: When was the TOD clock introduced? 1970. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread John Gilmore
UTC, Universal Coordinated Time, is not the the fundamental quantity. It is obtained from TAI, International Atomic Time, by [sometimes] adding|subtracting leap seconds immediately before midnight on June 30 and/or December 31, as specified by the IERS, International Earth Rotation and Reference

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread DASDBILL2
time-zone UTC offsets are not in general integers.  The Australian Cocos Islands Time Zone is UTC+6.30.   Most places are an integral number of hours + or - from Greenwhich.   There are a few that are a half hour off from an integral number of hours difference.  And at last one whole country,

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/28/2014 12:35 PM, Charles Mills wrote: For question 3 I should clarify that the ECSA requirement in question is pageable -- subpool 241. CSA is not customer-configured by subpool. Rather, subpools (and associated storage characteristics) are assigned dynamically at STORAGE OBTAIN time,

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread John Gilmore
I try to avoid what Quine called mathematosis in my posts, but I lapsed: UTC offsets are not in general integers is mathematically correct; but, as Bill Fairchild points out, it conveys the wrong impression, a suggestion that most of them are not integers, to non-mathematicians. My point was

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 12:35:42 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: 1. How much Extended (above the line) CSA do you have configured in the IEASYSxx CSA b value for your production LPARs? 2. To help me normalize the answers to question 1, roughly how many address spaces do you have configured on those

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/29/2014 9:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: When customers begin to raise eyebrows at ECSA constraints, it's time to raise a requirement for above-the-bar CSA. Agreed. And, since this feature has been an integral part of the z/OS operating system for many years now, such requirements must be

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread John Gilmore
A z/OS above-the-bar CSA or the like is clearly in the womb of time. How soon such a facility will be made available is not clear. Surrogate RYO schemes are, of course, easy enough to devise and implement. I have one, and I'm sure others do too. Finally, however, a private sharing mechanism is

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Charles Mills
Right, I did not ask how much subpool 241 do you configure? I asked how much ECSA they configured. I clarified question 3 to read: If you were looking at a vendor product, how much pageable (subpool 241) ECSA requirement would make you raise your eyebrows? Surely 100 bytes would be OK. At roughly

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/29/2014 11:27 AM, John Gilmore wrote: A z/OS above-the-bar CSA or the like is clearly in the womb of time. How soon such a facility will be made available is not clear. A documented change in macro IARST64 ca. March 2007: Flag LineItem FMIDDate IDComment $L1=64COMMON HBB7750

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:06:59 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 6/29/2014 11:27 AM, John Gilmore wrote: A z/OS above-the-bar CSA or the like is clearly in the womb of time. How soon such a facility will be made available is not clear. A documented change in macro IARST64 ca. March 2007: Flag LineItem

IKJPOSIT question

2014-06-29 Thread MichealButz
An I am looking for to enter a string following a keyword towards that end I use IKJPOSIT SPACE,VALIDCK= I am looking to enter program name which is up to a 8 byte character string When I enter the string it comes back to me IKJ56712I INVALID KEYWORD I don't understand this as

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/29/2014 5:54 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:06:59 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: A documented change in macro IARST64 ca. March 2007: Flag LineItem FMIDDate IDComment $L1=64COMMON HBB7750 070301 PD00XB: 64 bit storage manager I can remember the two of us being in

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 12:29:54 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: 3. If you were looking at a vendor product, how much ECSA requirement would make you raise your eyebrows? Surely 100 bytes would be OK. At roughly what number would you go Whoa! Wait a minute. Really? You need how much ECSA? Several

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/29/2014 11:29 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Right, I did not ask how much subpool 241 do you configure? I asked how much ECSA they configured. I clarified question 3 to read: If you were looking at a vendor product, how much pageable (subpool 241) ECSA requirement would make you raise your

Re: ECSA Survey

2014-06-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 19:47:27 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: I recommend new exploiters of 'CSA' - regardless of expected size requirement - consider placing their common storage above the bar in order to eliminate such questions and considerations altogether. VSCR is always a good thing... As is

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck [ snip ] I have two (currently) sets of data. The data is historical. [ snip ] I need to be able to convert to and from local times and UTC times. And, let me say now, when I say time, I mean a