Re: New LPAR and FTPD & IND$FILE is saying any file we want is used exclusively by someone else

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Horein
I use SymbolicRelate to overcome (some) naming collisions: //STEP1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DEFINE ALIAS- (NAME('SYS3.SA.ACF') - SYM('SYS3.SA.&GDPSTYPE..ACF')) "&GDPSTYPE" resolves to either "KSYS" or "P

memories

2014-11-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:53:46 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >... a "TSO under VS/1" product that we were looking at. Did you get the opportunity to try it ?. I thought it was the ducks nuts when I moved to a company that had it. Shane ... ---

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread David Crayford
On 21/11/2014 12:32 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 20 November 2014 05:30, David Crayford wrote: I'm interested in how easy it is to recompile a PL/I program for 64-bit when you have to explicitly specify bit widths on the types. That's trivial to do in C. Why would you have to/want to change th

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 November 2014 17:18, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>When I started working,in 1981, they called themselves Storage Technology >>Corporation, or STC. >> > Which had severe trademark problems. In the 1970s we got in STC tape drives (3420 clones). The

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module? > But I'd

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:04:51 -0500, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >When I started working,in 1981, they called themselves Storage Technology >Corporation, or STC. > Which had severe trademark problems. >They changed to STK in later yeats. > NYSE ticker symbol. Branding police attempted (remarkably unsucc

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When I started working,in 1981, they called themselves Storage Technology Corporation, or STC. They changed to STK in later yeats. - -teD -   Original Message   From: R.S. Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 16:38 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Wha

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-11-20 o 21:39, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:04:37 -0500, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Started Task Control This was only confusing to me when I worked for Storage Technology Corporation and was new to MVS. Well, when I was working as Storagetek consultant, an "STK "acronym"

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:04:37 -0500, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >Started Task Control > This was only confusing to me when I worked for Storage Technology Corporation and was new to MVS. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arch

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/20/2014 at 07:23 AM, John McKown said: >Why? Because somebody thought that using ISPF would make it "better". An *option* to use ISPF *does* make it better. However valuable the ISPF panels may be, they don't eliminate the occasional need to automate things. >IBM wants z/OS to be

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/20/2014 at 10:49 AM, John Compton said: >Any suggestions gratefully received... Write a WLM formatter, assuming that the format is documented. Submit a requirement to IBM, with business case. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Binder SYSPRINT wrap?

2014-11-20 Thread Charles Mills
Just to annoy you.  Charles Sent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity Original message From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date:11/20/2014 9:57 AM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Binder SYSPRINT wrap? Browsing a Bi

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/20/2014 at 06:30 PM, David Crayford said: >I'm interested in how easy it is to recompile a PL/I program for >64-bit when you have to explicitly specify bit widths on the types. Your question has an assumption contrary to fact. You can specify the size of an integer in PL.I, but you

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Started Task Control - -teD -   Original Message   From: zMan Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 13:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU? Any guesses what STC *means*? Started TasC? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Peter H

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Skeldum, William
I think it is Started Task Control. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU? Any guesses what STC *means

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread zMan
Any guesses what STC *means*? Started TasC? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >We run APPC/ASCH. Here's what I see in SDSF. APPC and ASCH have no JES > jobid. (Excuse the spacing; I can't seem to set the font in this note.) > > >JOBNAME Sys StepName JobIDASIDX > >APP

Binder SYSPRINT wrap?

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Browsing a Binder SYSPRINT, I notice that lines in "*** DATA SET SUMMARY ***" are wrapped after 84 columns (including carriage control), then padded with blanks to 121 characters. Why? What's the rationale for this behavior? Other sections of the same SYSPRINT use all 121 characters. -- gil

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:32:22 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >Why would you have to/want to change the declarations? Specify the >size needed for your application data, and let the compiler figure out >what to do internally. Of course if you're doing something bizarre >like UNSPECing a pointer value i

AW: Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>We run APPC/ASCH. Here's what I see in SDSF. APPC and ASCH have no JES jobid. >(Excuse the spacing; I can't seem to set the font in this note.) >JOBNAME Sys StepName JobIDASIDX >APPC XX APPC 0049 >ASCH XX ASCH 004E >ASCHINT XX ASCHINT STC00503 0061

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We run APPC/ASCH. Here's what I see in SDSF. APPC and ASCH have no JES jobid. (Excuse the spacing; I can't seem to set the font in this note.) JOBNAME Sys StepName JobIDASIDX APPC XX APPC 0049 ASCH XX ASCH 004E ASCHINT XX ASCHINT STC00503 0061 . . . J.

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 November 2014 05:30, David Crayford wrote: > I'm interested in how easy it is to recompile a PL/I program for 64-bit when > you have to explicitly specify bit widths on the types. That's trivial to do > in C. Why would you have to/want to change the declarations? Specify the size needed f

Re: Running JZOS on Windows

2014-11-20 Thread System Programmer
John, Kirk, Thanks, much appreciated. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > Most of the JZOS classes depend on native z/OS JNI libraries and underlying > z/OS services.There are, however, many JZOS classes (like > com.ibm.jzos.fields.* and com.ibm.jzos.FileFactory for exampl

Re: Running JZOS on Windows

2014-11-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Most of the JZOS classes depend on native z/OS JNI libraries and underlying z/OS services.There are, however, many JZOS classes (like com.ibm.jzos.fields.* and com.ibm.jzos.FileFactory for example) that you can run anywhere. BTW - you can absolutely write Java desktop apps that access z/OS dat

AW: Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> John, the Unix stuff is so super cool like you said, but for me in this very > particular case I am working on when I see a TSO user ID racking up CPU time > as an STC, with my inside information I now know exactly what is going on. > They are spawned client/server sessions. Not necessarily

Re: Running JZOS on Windows

2014-11-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:50 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:39 AM, System Programmer > wrote: > > ​​ > ​I sort of assumed that you are wanting to develop and test your z/OS > based application on your desktop Eclipse. Development is possible in this > scenario, but the resu

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Eells
(Reposting to the list server.) A while back, when it became obvious that we needed a way to prime a WLM policy for new systems, SYS1.SAMPLIB(IWMINSTL) was born. Maybe you'll find the IWMARIDU program useful in this context, and maybe not...if I recall correctly it uses an ISPF table. (I act

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:41:00 +, Martin Packer wrote: > > >I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. > >If not we'll have to raise a requirement. > > If you're raising a requirement, ask them why the hell

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:41:00 +, Martin Packer wrote: >I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. >If not we'll have to raise a requirement. If you're raising a requirement, ask them why the hell it was architected like that in the first place. No doubt the ans

Re: Running JZOS on Windows

2014-11-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:39 AM, System Programmer wrote: > Hi, > > Trying to call some JZOS classes from an Eclipse project. > > I get the following errors: > > Error loading jzos native library, subsequent native methods will fail with > 'UnsatisfiedLinkError' > java.lang. > UnsatisfiedLinkErro

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
That was me. The result was practically zero. There is no really useable batch interface to do, in my case, mass WLM updates. I ended up with a terminal emulator macro doing the work for me. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
This was also an interesting (related) thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/1bnhG_--Zzc Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitte

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-11-20 Thread David Crayford
On 19/11/2014 9:58 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: This is not a comment about the LUA4Z port, but at first glance I find the module system a little confusing. It's quite simple once you grok it http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.3. It's very flexible. You can add your own module system quite e

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Compton
Sounds good, Martin - Thanks On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Martin Packer wrote: > I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. > If not we'll have to raise a requirement. > > Sorry, Martin > > Martin Packer, > zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, > Worldwi

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. If not we'll have to raise a requirement. Sorry, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / F

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Compton
That looks like a good start, Martin. My need for an audit trail appears to covered. But is modifying the policy via batch something that is still to be developed/documented? Do you have any plans for such a thing? Regards John On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Martin Packer wrote: > Actually I

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
Actually I sort of already did: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/playing_spot_the_difference_with_wlm_service_definitions?lang=en Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-24

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
Would XML suit you? It's what I do in Batch from the ISPF TLIB. I'm not sure whether to write up what is an undocumented and unsupported technique. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: mart

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thank you every one very much for your valuable input. From all I've read, the answer really wasn't very straightforward. But the two experts SDSF and MXG call it Task Type, but not sure about IOF, I got bored looking for it. And in some of my own Rexx code I just found there were five ty

Running JZOS on Windows

2014-11-20 Thread System Programmer
Hi, Trying to call some JZOS classes from an Eclipse project. I get the following errors: Error loading jzos native library, subsequent native methods will fail with 'UnsatisfiedLinkError' java.lang. UnsatisfiedLinkError: no jzos in java.library.path Could not determine JZOS DLL version. jzos.j

WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Compton
Currently, the only way I know of handling WLM policy changes is though the ISPF dialogs, screens, etc., that sit behind IWMARIN0. That's all very well, but beyond the NOTES function (and/or in-house change control documentation), there is no real possibility of an audit trail. Is there any way of

Re: How declare in C++ a constant in an assembler module?

2014-11-20 Thread David Crayford
I'm interested in how easy it is to recompile a PL/I program for 64-bit when you have to explicitly specify bit widths on the types. That's trivial to do in C. > On 19 Nov 2014, at 8:53 pm, John Gilmore wrote: > > As I have had occasion to note here before, the traditions of C and > its seque