Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread David Crayford
On 10/03/2015 7:02 AM, Sam Siegel wrote: 64 bit memory is the cleanest in terms of using linear addresses. However, if data needs to be referenced by COBOL, you will face problems. You might need to copy back data to 31bit address space or other means. dataspaces cannot be directly accesses by

Re: Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-10 Thread Ed Finnell
Apologies. My nephew mentioned they were having big sales at the Health food store for Pi day. I just picked the first one with pretty pictures. In a message dated 3/10/2015 12:52:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes: Sorry to burst your Pi bubble, but that

Re: Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Finnell wrote: >Apologies. My nephew mentioned they were having big sales at the Health food >store for Pi day. I just picked the first one with pretty pictures. No need to apologise. I enjoyed your post and the link. I also got a mail privately from a friend about this date (and the other o

Re: Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-10 Thread Ed Finnell
They're a local establishment. Specializing in natural and preservative free offerings. _www.mannagrocery.com_ (http://www.mannagrocery.com) In a message dated 3/10/2015 4:00:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes: Please send over the food from Health foo

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Martin Packer
More likely IEFUSI or similar. Hiperspace is NOT in the 31-bit (or 64-bit) memory map. That's the point of it. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebo

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Martin Packer
I wonder if Data Windowing Services is still around. I vaguely recall they used Hiperspaces (still perfectly valid but mapped to Central). Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@

Re: John Eells Item

2015-03-10 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Thanks Kirk, that helps. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 3:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: John Eells Item I don't speak for IBM, but I read the announcements to s

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 22:53:46 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: >Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I shared it with co-workers who >promptly showed it to the boss and the boss came over to me and said >if they have that kind of Money to throw away looks like SHARE is out >of the budget next year and the fore

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 09:37:42 +, Martin Packer wrote: >More likely IEFUSI or similar. Hiperspace is NOT in the 31-bit (or 64-bit) >memory map. That's the point of it. > Are you saying that it's there in case 64-bit is not enough? -- gil ---

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Scott Ford
Alan: I was thinking along the lines of what you suggested. cant suggest as a ISV and developer to customers to use CICS or DB2 as a solution. I personally think its overkill for a system type application which we are..besides we handle sensitive security type data. Regards, Scott On Tue, Mar 1

Re: Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-10 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
Approximately, but not exactly ... Vacation Notice: - none currently scheduled - Tom Puddicombe Principal Systems Engineer Mainframe Performance & Capacity Planning CSC 31 Brookdale Rd, Meriden, CT 06450 ITIS | (860) 428-3252 | tpudd...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If yo

locale ISO8859-1 (and DFSORT UNICODE)

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Thinking about DFSORT and UNICODE. locale -a tells me these should be valid: user@OS/390.24.00: locale -a | grep En_US.*8859 En_US.ISO8859-1.lp64 En_US.ISO8859-1.xplink However: user@OS/390.24.00: LC_ALL=En_US.ISO8859-1.lp64 locale

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Greg Shirey
Really? All your "co-workers" are spending the day watching videos on You Tube and the only thing the "boss" complains about (to you directly) is what he perceives the cost of the video to be? That sounds odd. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Share Question on DFSORT and UNICODE

2015-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have seen an issue with sorting, did you open an SR/PMR with IBM on it? If not, how can it get resolved? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:15 PM > To

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar09:2144-0700, Charles Mills wrote: > On 15Mar09:2054-, Ed Gould wrote: >> >> Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I shared it with co-workers who promptly >> showed it to the boss and the boss came over to me and said if they have >> that kind of Money to throw away looks like SHARE is

Re: Share Question on DFSORT and UNICODE

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 06:46:30 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >If you have seen an issue with sorting, did you open an SR/PMR with IBM on it? > Yes. >If not, how can it get resolved? > Apparently PMR makes no difference. They called it WAD. -- gil ---

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Martin Packer
Hiperspace came along about 22 years before 64-bit ANYTHING, let alone 64-Bit Virtual. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blo

Re: Check out Friday is Pi Day

2015-03-10 Thread Ken Porowski
And if you go sub-second the rest of the digits are there too CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential informa

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:14:55 +, Martin Packer wrote: >Hiperspace came along about 22 years before 64-bit ANYTHING, let alone >64-Bit Virtual. > Nowadays, what advantage does hiperspace offer over 64-bit? Performance, perhaps? >From: Paul Gilmartin >Date: 10/03/2015 12:29 > >On Tue, 10 Ma

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Schwab
Rebbeca Black's family paid $4,000 (of $8-10,000 cost) for the video for the song Friday, and that is professionals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_(Rebecca_Black_song) On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 2

Re: LE Question

2015-03-10 Thread Martin Packer
Doability when you don't have a chance to do 64 Bit. :-( :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/dev

Re: locale ISO8859-1 (and DFSORT UNICODE)

2015-03-10 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Gil, It seems you hate DFSORT with passion and blame everything on DFSORT even though it is NOT. Let see the problems you faced so far. >>>FSUMA912 Cannot set locale: The internationalization variable settings are invalid. The error message FSUMA912 is NOT even a DFSORT message and if you look

CICS 4.2 to 5.1

2015-03-10 Thread August Carideo/RYE/US
We have a weird problem when executing a MENU transaction we receive garbage back to the screen It was working fine under 4.2, after bringing up 5.1 on our TECH LPAR we ran into this issue We changed STOargeclear to yes on the transaction and seems to work again. Anyone know why it would need to

FW: CICS 4.2 to 5.1

2015-03-10 Thread August Carideo/RYE/US
I tried to cross post this to, not sure if I have correct address - Thanks again cic...@listserv.uga.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: New Principles of Operation (and Vector Facility for z/Architecture)

2015-03-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: > The IBM z13's ~139 SIMD instructions are different and new, yes. I expect > that they represent a perfect functional superset of the long ago > discontinued S/390 Vector Facility. However, it's probably not particularly > useful to draw many parallels

Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Tom Marchant
I just received word of this and thought others on the list might find it interesting. Compuware is hosting a webcast with renowned expert in technology economics, Dr. Howard Rubin. Dr. Rubin will be presenting his most recent findings on the growing consumption of technology and its impact on

Re: CICS 4.2 to 5.1

2015-03-10 Thread Grinsell, Don
CICS stopped initializing working storage to low values a couple of releases ago. Most shops fixed this by 1) enforcing good application programming practices or 2) creating a region specific CEEROPT module to force all working storage to low values. You probably had a CEEROPT in your TS 4.2 D

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Wow, those are big numbers! Thank you, Tom. This seems to be a good thing to be shared with techies, but specially with management. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks, --- *L

Re: New Principles of Operation (and Vector Facility for z/Architecture)

2015-03-10 Thread Abe Kornelis
Timothy, thanks for the pointer and the additional information. Apart from personal interest, my primary focus is in creating support for the new instructions in the z390 emulator for HLASM and runtime support. As such I am more interested in the technicalities than in the broad overview. If

Re: MGCR in a non typical asid

2015-03-10 Thread Scott Fagen
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:29:54 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >I am running a MPF exit that works fine from user adress spaces. In respond >to RACF msg ICH302D, the userid assigned is +CONSOLE. The OPERCMDS profile >is having uacc read, but racf refuses the REPLYxx,Y >Another command issued under the

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Art Gutowski
If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of production workloads, but only 6% of IT spend (exclusive of aggregate labor costs across platforms). Given the armies of sysadmins to support *nix and windoze platforms, I gotta beli

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: -SNIP- That sounds like a lame excuse to me. Haven't you posted that you haven't been to SHARE in ages? When was the last time that the boss sent anyone to SHARE? I let the "kids" go un

Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I'm 90% sure of the answer but would like confirmation. We have a JES2 automatic command that's executes once an hour (T=3600) with no specific start time. Before the Sunday Daylight Saving Time switch, this command was executing at 45 minutes past the hour. Immediately after the time switch, it

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Ed Gould
Greg: I "work" for a non profit and every penny is accounted for and approved. I am a "senior" person here who volunteers his time although I am not an "employee" I am considered one of the group . I also spear headed the quest to join SHARE so I am one of the first to be "dinged" when anyt

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread Pommier, Rex
I don't know if I would infer that JES2 resyncs to the top of the hour. I would infer that JES2 simply restarted its 3600 second timer at the point of time the time changed. I would guess that if, for example, at 5:35 PM you changed the time to 5:36 PM, your hourly automatic command would star

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
That's what my notes say. Mainframe 68% of the work; 6% of the budget (Linux 19%; Windows 11%). Don't have work numbers for the other platforms. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Art Gutowski Sent: Tuesday, Marc

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
arthur.gutow...@gm.com (Art Gutowski) writes: > If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees > in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of production workloads, but > only 6% of IT spend (exclusive of aggregate labor costs across > platforms). Given the armies of sysadmins

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:53:46 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >I don't know if I would infer that JES2 resyncs to the top of the hour. I >would infer that JES2 simply restarted its 3600 second timer at the point of >time the time changed. I would guess that if, for example, at 5:35 PM you >changed

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Actually 'resetting at the moment of time change' is probably a better characterization. STP changes the time offset at the top of the hour, so timer intervals would reset to that. BTW I should have said that the auto command has I=3600, not T=. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edis

LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is "a thing"?

2015-03-10 Thread David Cole
Per the new PoOps: LZRG R1,D2(X2,B2) [RXY-a] The second operand, with the rightmost byte set to zero, is placed at the first-operand location. [snip] for LZRG, the first and second operands are 64 bits. I guess my imagination fails me, so I have to ask... Why? Dave Cole ColeSoft Market

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Ed, why don't you tell us exactly how much you and the other VOLUNTEERS got paid for that video?? I think your statement should read: Besides the drummer and singer, all folks featured are SHARE VOLUNTEERS. In order of appearance: Ed Jaffe, Sandra Pancoast, Buzz Woeckener, James Vincent, Harr

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:36:30 -0500, Art Gutowski wrote: >Given the armies of sysadmins to support *nix and windoze platforms, I gotta >believe labor costs on these platforms eclipse those of the mainframe. As Lynn mentions, the move to cloud affects them too - maybe most of all. "The time of the

Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links for completeness. The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The others just "popped up". Another great technological leap backwards. Shane ... -

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
AMEN! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Knowledgecentre versus the library server Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
Windows support costs are hard to identify. We know who supports the mainframe; they work for mainframe IT. But Windows in each department is supported in his "spare time" by that bright computer whiz kid in that department, and he is on their payroll. Charles -Original Message- From:

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Schwab
I would say it ran at 0145 xST. At 0301 xDT, the 1 hour had elapsed, so it ran it immediately. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:51 PM, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > I'm 90% sure of the answer but would like confirmation. We have a JES2 > automatic command that's executes once an hour (T=3600) with no spe

Migration to IBM System z server

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Schwab
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Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Mike is right. At 2:01 you've "added" 3600s (to make it 3:01), so JES2 tried to catch up as the interval had already been more than satisfied. This reminds me of our last fallback timechange when one of the techies issued a JES2 command to schedule the SET CLOCK before midnight. JES2 tried to catc

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Lou Losee
Is there a link to the keynote or the data presented during the keynote? Lo -- Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity - Unknown On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Art Gutowski wrote: > If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in > Seattle, mainf

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lucas Rosalen wrote: >Mike is right. >At 2:01 you've "added" 3600s (to make it 3:01), so JES2 tried to catch up as >the interval had already been more than satisfied. Indeed and this is documented, If, at 1:15 a.m., the clock is set ahead two hours, making the current time 3:15 a.m., the co