Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/26/2015 at 12:48 PM, "Nims,Alva John (Al)" said: >The picture is not very good though. A google search of "360/195" >got a few hits that may support that the ancestor is a 360/19x 19x? The only 3-digit S/360 model was 195. Did you mean 360/9x? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(Just picked off the last note in the thread.) I hate to leave this intriguing discussion without a stab at lessons learned. Given that the problem was finally solved and remediated through a PE APAR, there are a couple of actions that might have led to faster resolution. 1. Rigorously pull th

Re: Db2 table unload (CSV format)

2015-03-26 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
This has been discussed recently, also on IBM-Main. Look here: https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1502&L=ibm-main&F=&S=&P=563359 See 3rd paragraph. In general, with CSV the values have to be quoted (at least char values), because they may contain the separation character, and if they wer

Re: CR on records using OCOPY converting from ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-26 Thread Rob Schramm
If you use the cp command you can do something like cp -F crnl ... dataset options .. file dataset The exact syntax is in the book. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Landin wrote: > Thank you for the responses. > > I could not find an OCOPY option

Re: msgIEE707I when issuing jes commands from Jes Automatic commands

2015-03-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
So I did a couple of internet searches and came up with this http://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/weG3Xf5c/getting-iee707i-message-with-start-command Before processing command cm yyy, MVS presented the command to all subsystems that monitor commands. Based on the response returned, MVS did no

msgIEE707I when issuing jes commands from Jes Automatic commands

2015-03-26 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I entered some Jes2 commands to run under the timed commands feature mentioned in the subject. The command(s) are quit complex and include search of appropriate jobs to act on. When a command like $T JC,/JN =xxx*,QUEUE=XEQ,/C=K,C=P entered from Jes automatic commands, I get an IEE707I msg, which in

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas
Thanksa lot Kolusu for putting this. Let me see how to overcome this issue .. Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>I need to download as CSV file with out the extra 2 bytes Ron, Something does NOT make sense. If I understand the whole idea of downloading a file as CSV file is to send to a PC Platform and these files would be viewed using programs like EXCEL. EXCEL does sometimes strange things as it trie

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas
Thanks Kolusu.. I looked at the manual and there also when we need to unload to a CSV file then CSV paramters need to get coded , but the problem is when is code that extra 2 byte is comming. I need to download as CSV file with out the extra 2 bytes . Is there a way for that ? Thanks! -

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>Now the table gets unloaded with the out the pipe symbol. The parameters provided is as follows Ron, Well your initial question is the why your unload has 2 extra bytes and now you know the reason for that. Now coming to your latest question, about not having the separator, did you try look

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas
Ok Kolusu. Now the table gets unloaded with the out the pipe symbol. The parameters provided is as follows $$FILEM DBX OBJIN="PUSMDW01"."CUS_STO", $$FILEM OUTPUT=FMNOUT, $$FILEM NULLIND=_, $$FILEM SEPARATOR='|', $$FILEM ROWS=ALL Thanks Ron T -

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> MNBA355 Record size (546) invalid for FIXED,1696 output Ron, The actual message is FMNBA355 which specifies that your DCB parms coded in your JCL does not match the output length generated by your unload The first job you showed is unloading a different table from the latest one, so you need

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:17:11 -0400, David L. Craig wrote: >On 15Mar26:0928-0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: >> >> S/360 Model 91 >> >> Higher resolutions @ >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2371701458/sizes/l/in/photostream/ >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2370869637/sizes/l/in/photostr

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello. I modified the control card as below by removing all the CSV Parameters $$FILEM DBX OBJIN="PUSMDW01"."CUS_STO", $$FILEM OUTPUT=FMNOUT, $$FILEM NULLIND=_, $$FILEM SEPARATOR='|', $$FILEM ROWS=ALL i am getting the below error message BM File Manager for z/OS DB2 Component MNBA355 Record siz

Re: Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Ron, Probably due to $$FILEM CSV=YES, which would make FM enclose the data in quotes so that excel would treat the data as plain text. Try removing ALL the CSV parms and see if you still get the extra 2 bytes. Thanks, Kolusu From: Ron Thomas To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 03/

Db2 table unload

2015-03-26 Thread Ron Thomas
Hi . I am unlaoding a table and one of the columns the defintion is shown as below CUS_BIL_ADDRCHAR(26) FOR SBCS DATA NOT NULL Now when i unload the table it is showing as 28 characters in the download file """A COLORADO CORPORATION""" . Kindly let me know why the extra 2 byte is co

Re: Message Class

2015-03-26 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Venkat, Assuming it's JES2 (I don't know how JES3 deals with that), this will also depend on how MSGCLASS=H is defined in OUTCLASS parm of your JES2 control datasets, which are pointed in HASPPARM DD in JES2 proc. ---

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar26:0928-0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: > > S/360 Model 91 > > Higher resolutions @ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2371701458/sizes/l/in/photostream/ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2370869637/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Inquiring minds want to know: where's the Emergency Pull?

Re: Message Class

2015-03-26 Thread venkat kulkarni
Thanks . How do I view that class. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > If your SDSF is controlled by ISFPARMs or RACF - you will need to provide > the access you need. You need to use a USERID that has authority to view > that class. > > > Lizette > > > > -Original Mes

PDSE design flaws and reliability question wasRe: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Clark Morris
On 26 Mar 2015 03:33:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >* USERS AFFECTED: IEBCOPY of a RECFM=F or RECFM=FB PDSE >* results in a broken PDSE. The only members >* which can be accessed in t

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 26 March 2015 at 08:06, Don Poitras wrote: > The special thanks should really go to Bob Rutledge. He's the one that pointed > out the APAR. Tony just gave you a "public" url. I was about to point that out. Thanks for doing it for me. :-) Tony H. basking in undeserved glory... ---

Re: Message Class

2015-03-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
If your SDSF is controlled by ISFPARMs or RACF - you will need to provide the access you need. You need to use a USERID that has authority to view that class. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of venkat ku

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:38:12 -0500, John McKown wrote: >Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant >that the old machines really did look a lot more "computer-ish" than >today's "pizza box" and "refridgerator" forms. Oh, for the days of >spinning tapes and card sorters.

Message Class

2015-03-26 Thread venkat kulkarni
Generally, we use message class A in our JCL and we get output in SD.ST to view the Job log. But Today somebody used message class H in JCL but now I dont find his job long in SD.ST. Can anybody suggest, how can I view his job log. Thanks in advance. -

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:38:12 -0500, John McKown wrote: >Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant >that the old machines really did look a lot more "computer-ish" than >today's "pizza box" and "refridgerator" forms. Oh, for the days of >spinning tapes and card sorters.

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Mark Regan
I've called this author out before on another article of his on Forbes about 4 months. His response was: "I enjoy posting photos of important technology of the past to give readers some context. But in truth, I simply think photos of old technology are cool!"  Thanks, Mark Regan USNR-Ret. [1969

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Start at that link and click a few times on the right arrow and get to the "Model 91" and I think we have our answer or: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360#/media/File:IBM_System_36091.sj.jpg Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (352) 273-129

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
I found: https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2195.html The picture is not very good though. A google search of "360/195" got a few hits that may support that the ancestor is a 360/19x Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Mike Schwab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360#/media/File:IBM_System_360-30_front_panel.agr.jpg On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > S/360. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:38 AM, John McKown > wrote: >> Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant >> that th

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah, Mike that's what I thought. Heard of a s360/195 had never seen one. Regards, Scott On Thursday, March 26, 2015, Mike Schwab wrote: > S/360. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:38 AM, John McKown > > wrote: > > Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant > > that the ol

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Mike Schwab
S/360. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:38 AM, John McKown wrote: > Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant > that the old machines really did look a lot more "computer-ish" than > today's "pizza box" and "refridgerator" forms. Oh, for the days of > spinning tapes and card

OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Scott Ford
John, Is that a 360/195 ? On Thursday, March 26, 2015, John McKown > wrote: > Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant > that the old machines really did look a lot more "computer-ish" than > today's "pizza box" and "refridgerator" forms. Oh, for the days of > spinni

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Henn, Karl
Very true, Don. That must have temporarily slipped my attention. May I blame it on lack of sleep? ;-) Special thanks to Bob Rutledge as well, of course! And, once again: I do appreciate y'all's input and help. Regards Karl -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Don Poitras
The special thanks should really go to Bob Rutledge. He's the one that pointed out the APAR. Tony just gave you a "public" url. In article you wrote: > World, > Luckily, I'm not crazy. Who would have thought that ...? > The error was introduced with the PTFs for OA46598, which were: UA75869

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread John McKown
Why did they put in a picture of "an ancestor of the z13"? I'll grant that the old machines really did look a lot more "computer-ish" than today's "pizza box" and "refridgerator" forms. Oh, for the days of spinning tapes and card sorters. [grin]. BTW - what is that a picture of? On Thu, Mar 26, 20

OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread Tom Marchant
Interesting article about the mainframe in Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2015/03/24/digital-cloud-modern-and-cost-effective-surprise-its-the-mainframe/ tiny'd: http://preview.tinyurl.com/pv3wwz9 -- Tom Marchant --

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Shane Ginnane
* USERS AFFECTED: IEBCOPY of a RECFM=F or RECFM=FB PDSE * results in a broken PDSE. The only members * which can be accessed in the target PDSE * are the empty members. ***

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Henn, Karl
World, Luckily, I'm not crazy. Who would have thought that ...? The error was introduced with the PTFs for OA46598, which were: UA75869 (D10) and UA75875 (210). There is a fairly fresh APAR that addresses this problem; OA47338 (special thanks to Tony Harminc for pointing me to this yesterday).

Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

2015-03-26 Thread Henn, Karl
Thanks a lot, Tony! I don't know why I didn't see/find it yesterday. The error description of this brand-new APAR does exactly fit the situation I'm facing. I'll RESTORE UA75875 right away in order to verify this. Regards, Karl -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [m