GDPS options are also available.
Timothy Sipples
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Tony Harminc wrote:
>That seems a little, uh, optimistic. The Java Programming Language
>book, and the corresponding Java Virtual Machine Specification, first
>editions, were both published in 1996.
No, not optimistic. Mere fact. Sun Microsystems made Java 1.0 generally
available for download on J
Gibney, Dave wrote:
>But, IBM Macros (z/OS and CICS) have changed over time. BALR/BASSM etc.
>Arguably, the module, while different, still preforms the same.
True. Depending on how you compile it, the resulting object codes may differ or
may be the same.
Example: RACROUTE ... has this ,RELEA
How far apart are your data centers.
Why not use SRDF/A to replicate
What benefit is EMC saying you will get from GDDR?
What storage arrays are you using? VMAX40K DataDomain
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We are contemplating a move to EMC DASD, with a GDDR LPAR at both our
primary and offsite locations.
The minimum specs we were provided insist on a 2-CP solution, but when I
pressed them, other than "commands took a long time", I received no
valid reason why a single CP with sufficient memory
SO, I have been working on inventory and verification that our CICS "underware"
source and executables match. Some of these modules are literally 40 years
since origination. I am comparing the actual load modules (Well, AMBLIST and
ASMAZAP output DUMPTC into SUPERC :) )
In general, I can find an
Peter,
You started with this: "Any program change requires full regression testing,
including "just a recompile"." I'm saying that paying "lip-service" to audit
requirements, and not confirming that the programs are exactly the same, is
heading (potentially) for exactly what you don't want. If
PLO is basically an "island" of its own. CDSx, transactional and CSST all mix
and match (if I have read the PoOp correctly).
I don't have the time to read the code at the level of detail necessary to find
this kind of flaw but mixing PLO with CDSG is definitely a recipe for the kind
of problem
It is a cinch that Java was designed if not from the get-go then certainly from
infancy for JIT compiling and so forth. I am sure the ABO was far from the
minds of the authors of COBOL II.
Charles
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You *can* *not* safely intermix the use of CDSG and PLO without using
special protocols. This is clearly documented in the POPs.
You *can* safely intermix CDSG and transactional execution.
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On 13 October 2016 at 14:47, Bill Woodger wrote:
>
> No, it doesn't turn the machine-code (ESA/370) into anything intermediate.
Are you quite sure?
> Yes, it knows something of the internals, and yes it knows things it can and
> can't do with that knowledge.
>
> "There is much more to go wrong
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 16:01:16 -0400, Farley, Peter wrote:
>Bill,
>
>You do not comprehend the depth of the fear of failure in large, audited
>business organizations.
>
>Also the "verification" you propose that we use for ABO output has no
>programmed tool yet to perform the verification automatic
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 23:27:28 +, Lindy Mayfield
wrote:
>
> ISPF-L, no, MVS-OE list, yes. But since it's often a system wide setting
> that IBM may or may not recommend, that’s why I chose IBM-Main first to ask.
> It affect the entire machine, not just OMVS guys.
>
This motivates several qu
Peter - Well said.
Sam
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> You do not comprehend the depth of the fear of failure in large, audited
> business organizations.
>
> Also the "verification" you propose that we use for ABO output has
Bill,
You do not comprehend the depth of the fear of failure in large, audited
business organizations.
Also the "verification" you propose that we use for ABO output has no
programmed tool yet to perform the verification automatically - IEBIBALL is the
only current tool available, and that is
For me the same.
Will take a look and ask collegues.
Gerrit Bakker
Rabobank, Netherlands
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Onderwerp: Re: IBM Education Assistance for z/OS - Useful??
I never heard of it
Thanks Martin, I will follow up with that. I am particularly interested in
how the *MASTER* address space uses ePVT.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Martin Packer
wrote:
> Type 30 has 31-bit (and 24-bit FWIW) Allocation numbers for each address
> space. DB2 and MQ used to be prime users of 31-B
Check out ICETOOLs.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.iceg200/ice.htm
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Tony,
"But the ABO product is certainly not just translating individual old
instructions into newer ones. Rather, it is surely identifying COBOL paradigms
based on some kind of pattern matching, and then retranslating those COBOLy
things into modern machine code. Presumably it effectively rever
Peter,
For a recompile, where the program is not expected to have changed even one
iota, a regression-test is a very poor substitute for verification. I'd be
amazed if your tests would be extensive enough to pick that the program was
different, whereas a comparison (masking or "reconciling" the
Closest to a guarantee is: "That may depend on how you take this claim: "[ABO]
... produces a functionally equivalent executable program"."
I've taken that from a post of mine in the March 10 discussion here started by
Skip.
The Stupid PERFORM broke that.
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by any chance does anyone have a DFCORT job to generate a report of TSO command
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Being in the financial services business, I'm with you on this. Any program
change requires full regression testing, including "just a recompile". We do
not recompile at all once changed source code is tested by the developer and
moved into QA. All moves into QA and into Prod are just IEBCOPY
Very little software comes with guarantees of "do no harm."
Charles
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Subject: Re: ABO Automatic Binar
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:39:30 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>... But the ABO product is certainly not just translating
>individual old instructions into newer ones. Rather, it is surely
>identifying COBOL paradigms based on some kind of pattern matching,
>and then retranslating those COBOLy things in
Coming from the banking and Utilities background, it was required that any
changes made in a
production environment be tested prior to implementation, and include backout
capabilities.
While I believe that ABO can very much help old COBOL modules (and even those
sites that don't
have correspondi
Type 30 has 31-bit (and 24-bit FWIW) Allocation numbers for each address
space. DB2 and MQ used to be prime users of 31-Bit (and secondarily CICS
is) but the most modern level of MQ and recentish levels of DB2 chanced
all that.
And I'm sure you know RMF SMF 78-2 has System-Level virtual storage
My apologies, yes, I meant ASXBSENV.
Re. RACROUTE, this is a higher layer (SAF - System Authorization Facility) to
request auth functions without concern over which specific security server is
in use, ie. RACF, ACF2 or TSS. Before SAF, non-RACF alternatives would need to
hijack SVCs 130-133.
On 13 October 2016 at 06:41, Timothy Sipples wrote:
> OK, about testing. For perspective, for over two decades (!) Java has
> compiled/compiles bytecode *every time* a Java class is first instantiated.
That seems a little, uh, optimistic. The Java Programming Language
book, and the corresponding
Missed a line of code at the end... Here is the updated code:
FIRST DS D
LASTDS D
DOX378 DS0H
LGR6,LAST
*C IF FIRST AND LAST EQ 0
>For simplicity and safety,you could attach a subtask, and do the VERIFY (and
>the cross-memory call) from that subtask. Then, on the VERIFY, if you >omit
>the ACEE parameter RACF will (as documented in the RACROUTE book) put the ACEE
>address into TCBSENV for you. If the cross-memory server >is
I have a control block chain in CSA above the BAR that is updated from multiple
address spaces with a first and last pointer. The last entry in the chain has a
next = 0. If there are no entries in the chain the first and last pointer = 0.
I seem to be adding two entries to the beginning of the c
The idea of making any kind of last-minute change just before production makes
my skin crawl. Even when we (rarely) install an emergency PTF, we insist on
running the code at least on the sandbox and preferably on the development
system before hitting production. I would call it irresponsible to
I have heard Java characterized as "write once, debug everywhere."
Charles
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General answer:
I was trying to do some diagnostics to determine the common point
of failure.
Well, just a few minutes ago, here on my home Linux systems, I
was able to get to IBM.com and then directly into "Ibmlink".
So now I have a circumvention.
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Addressing Ping:
Ping, as a diagn
>I'm afraid we still don't know enough about how your cross-memory server is
>operating. In an earlier post you implied that it will choose whether to >use
>the primary or secondary ID. How does it make that choice? And how does it
>find both of them.
>If you change ASXBSENV you are changing th
Call me conservative after many years in this business but I say Yes. In my
experience optimization sometimes exposes bugs that previously were masked. I
have little experience with COBOL, but COBOL is notorious for allowing invalid
constructs like array subscript over-cleverness.
Charles
Hello All,
The problem I have is that a few IMS reorg jobs which place a high demand
on eCSA often fail due to insufficient eCSA.
The current eCSA allocation is 1030M. I would like to try bumping it up to
1130M or even 1230M.
My question is how can I determine who would be impacted? Who requires
Idem ...
I vote YES !!!
Thanks a lot for the info.
Massimo
2016-10-13 16:31 GMT+02:00 Ronald Kristel :
> 1) I have not seen this before. So far a definite yes!
> 2) Absolutely. (Thinking about this, wasn't there a option to have these
> in the daily z/OS Notification e-mail aswell? (I think it
1) I have not seen this before. So far a definite yes!
2) Absolutely. (Thinking about this, wasn't there a option to have these in the
daily z/OS Notification e-mail aswell? (I think it was a post from Marne Walle
aswell) It seems I am no longer getting those..)
3) I'll have to check in more det
Well, it's an excellent question Tom, but needs to be directed to people at
sites that do that :-)
Pushed for an answer, I'd say "no". But, if you have and it ends up being
the same asnwer as for ABO, which is why you've posed the question.
IBM actually recommends slapping OPT on three minu
I know that some IBM sites are designed to not respond to a ping
request not sure if this is the case though.
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I'm not saying just instal the ABO and get on with it. I'm talking about
per-program, beyond an initial "proving" stage (of the procedures for working,
implementation, gauging actual improvement with actual programs, including even
detailed work on "beast" programs). I'd also expect "parallel" r
Apparently I can FTP to IBM to update ETRs, but I can't get ping
to work against ibm.com or traceroute (I run Linux on home systems).
Strange.
Regards,
Steve Thompson
On 10/13/2016 08:33 AM, John McKown wrote:
This URL works for me (near Dallas TX, don't know my company's ISP).
https://www-3
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 05:44:51 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
>Recompiling a program with no changes. Do you "regression test"? No.
...
So, if someone compiles their COBOL program without optimization and tests it,
then compiles it with optimization before putting it into production, does it
need to
Hello John,
I do have TDS. May I get a copy of your query and reports?
Regards,
John
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This URL works for me (near Dallas TX, don't know my company's ISP).
https://www-304.ibm.com/usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp?persistPage=true&page=/ibmlink&PD-REFERER=http://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink&error=
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:
> I can't ping it and it
I can't ping it and it doesn't resolve with my employer's DNS or
here from my systems running Linux (two completely different ISPs
and locals).
Makes it difficult to update ETRs.
Regards,
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On 10/12/2016 4:35 PM, Marna WALLE wrote:
Hello IBM-MAINers,
I wanted to ask about the usefulness of the IBM Education Assistance (IEA) for
z/OS.
A little background: IEA is found here:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/pages/IBMIEAV22avail?Open and provides concise
and technical inf
Yes it is good but little known. Publicize it and keep it up.
On Thursday, 13 October 2016, Mike Wawiorko
wrote:
> Marna,
>
> I've had a look at this and so have a couple of my colleagues who support
> z/OS Communications Server and related software.
>
> 1) is this is still a good way to provi
Marna,
I've had a look at this and so have a couple of my colleagues who support z/OS
Communications Server and related software.
1) is this is still a good way to provide this information to you?
Yes - we all agree on this
2) with all the other ways to learn about new functions, is IEA still
The logic is that if you've already ABO'd X-number of programs, you need to
check for the stupid PERFORM.
If located, fix the damn thing, then and there, test it, regression-test it,
get it completed.
Before ABO'ing, even if the code will "work", it is still garbage code (not
ABO's fault). So,
Recompiling a program with no changes. Do you "regression test"? No.
You compare the object (masking the date/time). If it is the same (as in
identical) - what would a regeression-test show?
OK, compiler may have been patched. Doesn't matter. The executable code
generated is the same.
Run-time
Bill Woodger wrote:
>You (now) need to check for the stupid out-of-order PERFORM ...
>THRU ... but otherwise you are good to go.
I don't understand the logic. Yes, you ought to make sure that ABO PTF is
applied. But look again at the APAR (PI68138):
"ABO was fixed to correctly optimize input prog
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:29:58 -0500, Janet Graff wrote:
>Aha, I just released I have to be in Key 0 to store into the ASXB. Can
>someone confirm that to change the ACEE in use, I have to update ASXBSENV?
>That there is no macro that will do this for me?
I'm afraid we still don't know enough ab
W dniu 2016-10-13 o 00:29, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On 2016-10-12 15:20, R.S. wrote:
Well, I always use non-US codepage on my 3270 emulator. Reason: I'm Pole, speak
Polish, sometimes write Polish naational characters. ;-) Usually I use CP 870,
but there is also similar codepage with EURO sign. Fo
Hi John,
I don't have Tivoli Decision Support.
Regards
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