CBT Tape Version 494 has been cut

2017-03-06 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, I decided to cut CBT Tape versions a bit more often. For the previous few years, I've cut about 2 versions per year, relying on the Updates page primarily, to get the new material and fixed material to the people. Even though it's a pain in the neck to do a release, it's

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Tom Brennan
Yep! I always tried to be somewhat neat with my projects, but you never know until someone else takes it over and says, "Hey, where's the macro library?" or similar. Oops... that was under my personal high-level-index, you know, the datasets you deleted 4 years ago :) Phil Smith wrote: Of

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Tom The guy that started Jolly Green in Canada sold the company to a guy that supports QWS3270Secure, QFTP, etc. The only problem I had, and it wasn't because of the actual product, was when W10 came out and it took him about 30 minutes to send me a new object. Ran it around the block, and

Re: Transactional Execution - anybody used it?

2017-03-06 Thread Greg Dyck
On 3/6/2017 3:15 PM, Jim wrote: I've used TBEGIN and vaguely remember reading up on TBEGINC but never ever tried it .. I'll have to hit the foils again .. My recommendation is that whenever possible, use a constrained transaction (aka, TBEGINC). It is guaranteed to complete successfully,

Save the date - Hillgang

2017-03-06 Thread Neale Ferguson
The next Hillgang will be held 22 March at the CA office in Herndon. The agenda and registration details will be coming in the next couple of days. We will have - - Barton from Velocity software - CA - Me talking Docker and OpenShift on z Neale

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
An interesting "reverse" variant of this. A long time ago I had a customer negotiate a contract that said that if we went out of business that they would get first refusal rights on hiring one particular developer of ours. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Phil Smith
Tom Brennan wrote: >Same here. Instead of escrow or source code supplied to an end user, I think >it would be far better for folks to consider someone else to take over should >a product be left behind (for whatever reason). For example, the code could >be given or sold to

Re: Transactional Execution - anybody used it?

2017-03-06 Thread Jim
Hello Peter, Been a while .. my apologies .. I do have a task for TEF that's been on my plate but .. I have not been able to touch it in for quite a while .. got pulled off for higher priority tasks ... since my code is proprietary, all I can really say is that my TEF usage would be strictly

Re: z/OSMF User Poll 2017 - Open through March 7, 2017

2017-03-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
OK, you convinced me to go take it as well. :-) It wasn't quite that simple. Q1. Are you using z/OSMF? Q2. Can we contact you regarding your answer? End of survey. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Tom Brennan
Same here. Instead of escrow or source code supplied to an end user, I think it would be far better for folks to consider someone else to take over should a product be left behind (for whatever reason). For example, the code could be given or sold to Rocket/Dino/Serena/etc. and hopefully get

Re: z/OSMF User Poll 2017 - Open through March 7, 2017

2017-03-06 Thread Tom Brennan
That *was* a quick poll :) Are you currently using z/OSMF? No. Thank you! Iris Rivera wrote: We've had 75 mainframe professionals take our poll. Thank you! Can we get 25 more of you to participate? Take our quick poll to let us know about your z/OSMF usage:

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
Am I being consistent? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract On 6

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
I don't believe the issues of IP rights in escrow have been fully litigated. Escrow is an executory contract (in bankruptcy law terms). The whole point of bankruptcy is to let you tear up past "mistakes" and start over. If I were a creditor of a bankrupt software company I would argue that the IP

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 March 2017 at 11:36, Charles Mills wrote: > I am very negative on the benefits of escrow. Here's a mental exercise. Some readers will remember a several days long discussion fest right here on this very list in May 2014 under the subject " Vendor Source Code". We covered

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-03-05, at 17:38, Knutson, Samuel wrote: > Most vendor products that provide meaningful value also are internally quite > large and complex. Very few if any sites that inherited a source escrow from > a vendor which goes out of business or sunsets a technology can support those >

z/OSMF User Poll 2017 - Open through March 7, 2017

2017-03-06 Thread Iris Rivera
We've had 75 mainframe professionals take our poll. Thank you! Can we get 25 more of you to participate? Take our quick poll to let us know about your z/OSMF usage: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3358240/a4747fe9a82f Poll is open through March 7, 2017. Iris M. Rivera, Design Researcher, z

Re: Software vendor trying to force MSU based contract

2017-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
I am very negative on the benefits of escrow. Here's a mental exercise. Scenario (1). You hire a new developer. You sit him or her down next to the existing developers. You share all of the little tips and tricks with the new person. You share source code libraries, JCL libraries, etc. How long

Re: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S.

2017-03-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Correction: we encountered the error in z/OS 2.2 (not 2.1). Kees. > -Original Message- > From: Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: 06 March, 2017 9:24 > To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S. > > > > >

Re: Problem Generating CA-7 SASSBSTR Batch LJOB Output

2017-03-06 Thread Jeffrey Holst
I seem to recall having a similar problem at one time. I learned from the vendor that the batch terminal interface closes and reopens SYSPRINT. This is a non-issue with SYSOUT datasets, but if the SYSPRINT is going to a data set, only the display of the commands get captured. Solution: Instead

Re: changeman setup on RDT

2017-03-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I agree, I've had to support Changeman at a previous site, and I was made to administer part of the product also, the user community at Serena is mostly all CHGM ADMINS that do nothing but administer the product and they, plus the vendor are pretty good at helping out. If you are an CHGM

Re: Can you use IDCAMS REPRO on zFS files

2017-03-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I check the filesystems using the diff uss command mount the new FS somewhere temporart like /u/userid/tmp then use the diff command to compare the dir and file structure write the results to a compare.txt file diff -r /u/userid/tmp /oldmount/ > /u/userid/compare.txt that should give you

Re: Can you use IDCAMS REPRO on zFS files

2017-03-06 Thread Allan Staller
REPRO works with dataset i.e. repro ids(x) ods() So the answer to q1 and q2 would be yes. I do not have an answer for q3 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 7:02 AM To:

Re: Can you use IDCAMS REPRO on zFS files

2017-03-06 Thread R.S.
Q1. Is it supported to make a IDCAMS REPRO from non-EA VSAM to EA VSAM? Q2. Is it supported to make a IDCAMS REPRO from non-EF VSAM to EF (EA) VSAM? (EA - extended addressability, EF - Extended Format) Q3. How can I check the filesystem consistency, what tool to use? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz,

Re: Unterse for 64 bit LINUX?

2017-03-06 Thread David Griffiths1
Hi, a colleague ported the C version of terse to Java a few years ago and I still use it all the time for untersing files on my laptop. It was bundled in my old svcdump.jar dump analyzer but not sure if that's still available. This is how I use it: java -cp ~/bin/svcdump.jar

Re: ServiceLink SRD problem

2017-03-06 Thread Jousma, David
Same here. Just ran SMPE RECEIVE ORDER just fine. Honestly, I wasn’t even aware that SRD was even functional anymore. Havent used it in years. _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President

Re: ServiceLink SRD problem

2017-03-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Glenn, I can't speak for SRD, but ShopzSeries is working this morning. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Glenn Miller Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ServiceLink SRD

Re: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S.

2017-03-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
It is only for IEC386S, I did not find any others. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht > Sent: 06 March, 2017 10:34 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Friday fun: trapping message

Re: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S.

2017-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, Kees wrote: >>How are you trapping it? By message or by string search? >In this case, by searching for the message in syslog, where all messages start >on the same position since the Roman Empire, util IEC386S. Ok. Thanks. It helps to know that it is the same position since Roman

Re: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S.

2017-03-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht > Sent: 03 March, 2017 16:50 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Friday fun: trapping message IEC386S. > > Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > >

Re: Transactional Execution - anybody used it?

2017-03-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Based on the relatively code path supported, it appears to be that the best use of it to replace/simplify the more complicated PLO cases where there is a lot of setup and the need for working storage. Don't know which will get better performance. On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 00:03:15 -0500 Peter Relson

Re: SMS Routines help

2017-03-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Edward Gould > Sent: 03 March, 2017 21:06 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMS Routines help > > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Ward, Mike S wrote: >

Re: Transactional Execution - anybody used it?

2017-03-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Peter, We are in the process of moving to a z13s. I noticed both the TX the MACHMIG options. We have a tight schedule for the move, do you recommend turning MACHMIG on or off as a start? Thanks, Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List