Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 May 2018 22:46:52 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >> On May 27, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Charles Mills wrote: >> >> Exactly. I am no VSAM guy ... but whatever magic you have to do manually go >> get the VSAM file to be readable, why can't AMS just do that when it creates >> the file? Is there

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 27, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Exactly. I am no VSAM guy ... but whatever magic you have to do manually go > get the VSAM file to be readable, why can't AMS just do that when it creates > the file? Is there any reason anyone would want a "virginal"

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Charles Mills
Exactly. I am no VSAM guy ... but whatever magic you have to do manually go get the VSAM file to be readable, why can't AMS just do that when it creates the file? Is there any reason anyone would want a "virginal" (unreadable) VSAM file specifically? How many ABENDs, how many application

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2018-05-27 Thread Mark Regan
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Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not really. It's more like making you create a VTOC after you've formated the drive instead of making the creation of the VTOC part of the formatting. Pre-SMS there was a similar problem with sequential DASD files; you had to open them for output if you wanted to use them as empty input files.

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Ron hawkins
I think it's more like "why do we have to format disk drives." Even a VTOC needs to know where things start and end. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: How to get BPX loadhfs (BPX1LOD) to load module into writable memory?

2018-05-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Around 1980 when I first got into Systems, I was given an assembler program that processed SMF data. One particular record type had changed recently: the offset of some data of interest had shifted. The previous program owner had chosen to accommodate this change by checking some upfront flag

Re: How to get BPX loadhfs (BPX1LOD) to load module into writable memory?

2018-05-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
There's the definition of reentrant and then there's the handling of the RENT option in various contexts. Don't expect the Binder to be consistent with the Linkage Editor, or that the behavior of load modules, program objects and Unix files will be consistent. But it would be nice if IBM ever

Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

2018-05-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've considered it a minor nuisance since day one. I got used to it, but never learned to like it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Frank Swarbrick

Re: smp/e question - PTF relinks, but missing CSECTs.

2018-05-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I would probably have called his boss and recorded it, then let my boss here the recording. But all's well that end's well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-27 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 24, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:03:55 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >> >> Our big boss was trying to show the board how he tried to save money. They >> sort of forced him into getting STC (now STK)