Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/17/2018 6:44 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: In hindsight I rue the decision to set aside both 4xxx and 5xxx addresses. In practice, the low order digit is severely underused. In the beginning I thought that we would need several different 'devices' for each LPAR. Never actually found a need

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
In hindsight I rue the decision to set aside both 4xxx and 5xxx addresses. In practice, the low order digit is severely underused. In the beginning I thought that we would need several different 'devices' for each LPAR. Never actually found a need for more than four, 0 - 3. I like Rob Jackson's

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/17/2018 4:23 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Just to be clear, a CTC naming convention is not tied uniquely to ESCON or FICON architecture. We implemented a scheme in the mid-90s under ESCON well before the advent of FICON. It's still in effect. The scheme we adopted (at IBM's suggestion) us

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jackson, Rob
Indeed. And I didn't follow their guidelines either, though I certainly borrowed from them. I was loathe to eat into two address ranges. Instead, I have always picked one range, added the even-odd nibble for direction, then a nibble for the LPAR number, and then the device number. Never had

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Charles Mills
Nice thoughts, but I do not believe that is the rule. I believe the stated rule is that everyone must preserve high halves for their callers. If you break it, you put it back together before returning. See Peter Relson 6/14/2016 "LINK and high order word of R1." > If you use it, you save it and

abend a03

2018-10-17 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I got the following abend after ending my tasks in a concurrent server. As I have not done any accepts at this point, my only guess was that I somehow have to terminate i.e. shutdown/close my listener sockets I issued a Shutdown/close again them only to receive errno 57 (the socket is no

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Just to be clear, a CTC naming convention is not tied uniquely to ESCON or FICON architecture. We implemented a scheme in the mid-90s under ESCON well before the advent of FICON. It's still in effect. The scheme we adopted (at IBM's suggestion) uses CEC, partition, direction (in or out for XCF)

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The simple answer to the "problem child" case is not "don't do that", but instead: If you use it, you save it and restore it for your caller. Don't expect anyone else to save it, so if you really need it after you get started then save again in your own storage before you call someone else who

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:20:44 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >And FWIW there is another overlapping complexity here besides AMODE 64 -- >speaking in theory only, because there is no reality of 64-bit COBOL. > >... A program could be AMODE 31 but either destroy the high halves of a >caller's register

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Charles Mills
And FWIW there is another overlapping complexity here besides AMODE 64 -- speaking in theory only, because there is no reality of 64-bit COBOL. There are really *three* kinds of module: those that are AMODE 64, those that are AMODE 31 but use and/or count on the high halves of registers, and tho

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:37:12 -0500, Allan Kielstra wrote: >It is only available in 31-bit. > >An interesting question to ask is: if it were available in 64-bit but mixing >and matching 31- and 64-bit modules was not possible (i.e., you would have to >recompile all modules in an application), w

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The following is just my personal $0.02USD worth. I speak for myself only and not for my employer. Just like any other new version of the COBOL compiler, 64-bit addressing support must be able to be phased in, subroutine by subroutine. Forcing all subroutines in a main program to become 64-bi

Re: COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Kielstra
It is only available in 31-bit. An interesting question to ask is: if it were available in 64-bit but mixing and matching 31- and 64-bit modules was not possible (i.e., you would have to recompile all modules in an application), would that be interesting? Or is it the case that it is vital to

COBOL 64bit

2018-10-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just an easy question - does anyone know if COBOL can be 64 bit or is it still only 31 bit? Lizette Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lis

Re: Another quick z/OSMF question

2018-10-17 Thread Edward Finnell
Isn't it just a profile setting in ISPF? >From anywhere do a ===>Prof 6and look for CAPS. ===>CAPS off Will do it for the session.===>CAPS off followed by                ===>profile savewill make it the default. In a message dated 10/17/2018 2:47:33 PM Central Standard Time, mitchd...@gmail.com

Re: Another quick z/OSMF question

2018-10-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
Yeah, admittedly there isn't much to it, I just went through the workflow to get a feel for how it works, (and see if it works ;) On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:31:20 +, Jousma, David wrote: >I coded that up manually. Wasn’t even aware that there was an option to >generate that. > --

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 15:25, Carmen Vitullo wrote: you mentioned this was not your system but also add; We are seeing a ABEND306-4 issued by FOCUS (not by IBM Contents Supervision) after a BLDL against DDname USERLIB returns with GPR15=0004, R0=, GPR1=0306. System trace shows that PDS

Re: Another quick z/OSMF question

2018-10-17 Thread Jousma, David
I coded that up manually. Wasn’t even aware that there was an option to generate that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Another quick z/OSMF question **CAUT

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Thanks Daniel. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Blake, Daniel J [CTR] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CTC conventions Not sure if this is it, https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=htt

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
you mentioned this was not your system but also add; We are seeing a ABEND306-4 issued by FOCUS (not by IBM Contents Supervision) after a BLDL against DDname USERLIB returns with GPR15=0004, R0=, GPR1=0306. System trace shows that PDSMAN code gets control for the BLDL, but IB

Another quick z/OSMF question

2018-10-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
If there is such a thing... I'm setting up z/OSMF 2.2 for the first time, I have it up and I just went through the 'Customization for the zOSMF plug-ins' workflow. The step to Update zOSMF (IZUPRMxx) parmlib member, attempting to add the PLUGIN statement to it, appears to have translated th

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 13:41, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I really don't belive PDSMAN refreshes / adds or deletes libraries from APF, dynamic or not, I know 'it used to' update LLA IF the PDS was managed, this was back Y2K, so things may have changed. the 306-4 is I think related to the concatenation, you lo

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Thanks Rob, I found that book, but went right past the "ESCON CTC Device Numbering Scheme" on page 5. A virtual beer to you! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
Not sure if this is it, https://www.ibm.com/search?q=SG24-5666&lnk=mhsrch&v=18&en=utf&lang=en&cc=us ;-D an -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jackson, Rob
Goog this, Allan: "redbook paper ficon ctc implementation." Top of the list. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subje

CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Esteemed Listers, I am in the process of adding a new LPAR to my sysplex and need some documentation for CTC naming conventions. Many moons ago, there existed a document with a suggested naming convention such that device addresses could be associated with a particular LPAR and the direction o

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I really don't belive PDSMAN refreshes / adds or deletes libraries from APF, dynamic or not, I know 'it used to' update LLA IF the PDS was managed, this was back Y2K, so things may have changed. the 306-4 is I think related to the concatenation, you lost authorization due to the STEPLIB concate

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 13:19, Clark Morris wrote: Is the data set in the concatenation twice because a symbolic is used to change the name of none, one or both at start-up time to another dataset? If APF is changed dynamically, should the change affect both members of the concatenation? I don't have th

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 17 Oct 2018 09:50:18 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com (Gord Tomlin) wrote: >On 2018-10-17 12:27, Steely.Mark wrote: >> To be clear, the data set is being accessed via a private DD statement: Is >> this the only Dataset specified on the DD statement ? >

Re: Reconfigurable storage

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Indeed it does, but on the MVS (z/OS) side unless I missed that chapter, does a poor job of; 1. providing good examples of configuring storage on or off, in increments 2. the feel good display from a tool other than the D M=STOR to validate, yes, all available storage configured 'reconfigur

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 12:27, Steely.Mark wrote: To be clear, the data set is being accessed via a private DD statement: Is this the only Dataset specified on the DD statement ? There is a concatenation, but both members of the concatenation are the same data set on the same volume. -- Regards, Go

Re: Reconfigurable storage

2018-10-17 Thread Parwez Hamid
I thought the PR/SM Planning guide covers this topic and has some examples. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/17/2018 12:31 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2018-10-17 12:23, Tom Conley wrote: Your client should open an incident with PDSMAN support. Absolutely! I've already suggested that. -- We both have an MO (Master of the Obvious) in Computer Science ;-)

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 12:23, Tom Conley wrote: Your client should open an incident with PDSMAN support. Absolutely! I've already suggested that. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 Support: https://a

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Steely.Mark
To be clear, the data set is being accessed via a private DD statement: Is this the only Dataset specified on the DD statement ? Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gord Tomlin Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/17/2018 11:49 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2018-10-17 10:50, Lizette Koehler wrote: Did you do an LLA Update or Refresh? And is this a managed PDSMAN dataset or something in a STEPLIB? This is not on our system. We don't have CA PDSMAN, so we are unable to test for ourselves. We are see

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 11:56, Carmen Vitullo wrote: so you question is just 'in general' ? I'ts been a while since I was at a site that used CA-PDSMAN but I'm thinking, if managed, it would automatically refresh LLA, not sure about the linklist, that refresh sometime causes issues with some vendor softw

Re: Reconfigurable storage

2018-10-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-10-16 o 19:10, Carmen Vitullo pisze: The fine manual 'for me' is not so easy to understand when configuring storage online, I've always had success configuring a storage element online and that amount was defined in the image profile and RSU parameter of IEASYSxx. I concur the abo

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
so you question is just 'in general' ? I'ts been a while since I was at a site that used CA-PDSMAN but I'm thinking, if managed, it would automatically refresh LLA, not sure about the linklist, that refresh sometime causes issues with some vendor software, or at least it use to. Carmen Vitu

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 10:50, Lizette Koehler wrote: Did you do an LLA Update or Refresh? And is this a managed PDSMAN dataset or something in a STEPLIB? This is not on our system. We don't have CA PDSMAN, so we are unable to test for ourselves. We are seeing a ABEND306-4 issued by FOCUS (not by IBM

Re: Question about support from vendor other than IBM

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've supported a Government site that used ADABAS and Natural, if you go to their site there is a link to the user community http://www.adabas.com/ Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Ron McCabe" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:07:53 PM Su

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Did you do an LLA Update or Refresh? And is this a managed PDSMAN dataset or something in a STEPLIB? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Gord Tomlin > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: CA P

CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
If a partitioned data set is defined to CA PDSMAN, and is then dynamically added to the APF list, does PDSMAN automatically recognize the fact that the data set is now defined to APF, or is a command required to cause PDSMAN to update its information? If PDSMAN does automatically recognize the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Command to list aged, migrated items

2018-10-17 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Lizette, that modify command is just what I'm after. PROF NOPREFIX-ing it just fails the command with RC8 when I tried. - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 16 October 2018 14:57 To: IBM-MAIN@