On 4/9/20 5:23 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never heard that
it is considered, or that IBM would like it to be considered, an
illegal counterfeit. Is there any ethical reason for that viewpoint?
No, forget "ethical"; I guess I can make up my own
Not an IBM mainframe this time.
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 22:33:09 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
>I just read an article about time-keeping that made a claim that puzzles me:
>
>"But most people — including commercial programmers, who write the critical
>software that controls public and private infrastructure — don’t know about
>the
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:20:10 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
>achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may
>then have marketable skills for a real z shop.
>
Testing programs for z-compatibility.
I just read an article about time-keeping that made a claim that puzzles me:
"But most people — including commercial programmers, who write the critical
software that controls public and private infrastructure — don’t know about the
leap second, Matsakis said, and that means their code doesn’t
It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may
then have marketable skills for a real z shop.
You can run mainframe Linuxes without fear of the license police. RHEL and
SLES are battle-hardened
On 9 Apr 2020 16:23:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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robhbrid...@gmail.com (Bob Bridges) wrote:
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never
heard that it is considered, or that IBM would like it to
be considered, an
This is new to me. I've heard of Hercules, but I never heard that it is
considered, or that IBM would like it to be considered, an illegal counterfeit.
Is there any ethical reason for that viewpoint? No, forget "ethical"; I guess
I can make up my own mind about that (and there'll never be a
+1 on all counts.
And follow the interviewer's lead: if s/he says "we don't believe in those
illegal hippie bootleg mainframes!" then for gosh sakes don't bring it up again.
Charles
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We just announced today with support from Open Mainframe Project members
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response to the
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:51 PM Steve Smith wrote:
> I didn't apply because I'm an uncivil programmer.
>
That was a rather civil response. I can imagine an NJ uncivil response. All
remarks about NJ based on my BFF from the few years he lived there. I did
see one occurance that I thought was
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:04 PM scott Ford wrote:
> More like initial design good for the times and the State not wanting to
> spend money , the code was never updated or barely maintained.
>
Which is in keeping with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." We only do
maintenance for fixes or changed
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:02 PM zMan wrote:
> "Civil"? Is that some language derived from COBOL? :)
>
>
I doubt it relates to the typical NJ attitude about non-NJ people. Just a
bit better than that of NYC people, speaking in general.
But mst likely means Civialian vs Military.
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On 4/9/20 10:55 AM, scott Ford wrote:
Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
In my opinion, IBM will never sanction Hercules.
I think that mentioning Hercules in the specific context of MVS 3.8j or
S/390 Linux or other free / non-licensed OSs is probably okay.
Doing so
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
>Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
>
>On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Grant Taylor wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
>>
>> > I've always wondered if it was a good idea bringing up
I didn't apply because I'm an uncivil programmer.
sas
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM zMan wrote:
> "Civil"? Is that some language derived from COBOL? :)
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:29:27 +0300, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>Submit command (ispf & tso) can be replaced by a program that will fold yo
>uppercase, depending on content (dir names bs dataset names, etc.).
>
I have done something similar, primarily to relieve SUBMIT's archaic
Fixed-80 constraint.
Well, it's obvious from the article that all mainframes are 50 years old, and
their COBOL programs are over 40 years old, that they haven't been touched
since then - so anybody who worked on them has to be in their 70s and retired,
and bored so just looking for something to do to take up some
Yeah, ISPF with HILITE CNTL highlights the lowercase letters in pink IIRC. It
could implement "FIX LC". Don't hold your breath.
Charles
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Submit command (ispf & tso) can be replaced by a program that will fold yo
uppercase, depending on content (dir names bs dataset names, etc.).
ITschak
בתאריך יום ה׳, 9 באפר׳ 2020, 20:18, מאת Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:07:50 -0700,
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:07:50 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>When what I would like is
>
>//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*the blah blah report
>
>Need the "do what I meant" feature implemented in ISPF edit.
>
Isn't there a JCL language profile that should do that? Does it
also highlight keywords in
Tony Thigpen wrote:
>Many years ago, a programmer where I worked was told to write a program
>in Cobol instead of RPG (which he preferred). So he did, but all the
>variables were in Spanish. Management was not impressed.
When my dad was teaching in South America (which he'd do for a few
ISPF edit line commands.
UC converts the given line to upper case.
UCC ... UCC converts the indicated range of lines to upper case.
The one place where it fails (fails me, it's working as designed) is if I were
to type for example
//sysprint dd sysout=*the blah blah report
UC converts it
Why am I not surprised
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:59 PM Steve Beaver wrote:
> No Pay = They really don't want competent help
>
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>
More like initial design good for the times and the State not wanting to
spend money , the code was never updated or barely maintained.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM zMan wrote:
> "Civil"? Is that some language derived from COBOL? :)
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:57 PM Mike Schwab
> wrote:
>
"Civil"? Is that some language derived from COBOL? :)
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:57 PM Mike Schwab wrote:
> Well, the 3rd COVID19 bill included an extra $600 per week increase in
> benefits from federal sources. Should be able to change the formulae
> quick enough, then just multiply the number
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:24:24 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>ISPF edit session line commands to convert the line or block of lines to
>uppercase.
>
Ah! Thanks. Not in my repertoire. I'm accustomed to typing
what I mean and shunning any system overrides.
"Line"? I say "prefix". Or am I
No Pay = They really don't want competent help
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So do I assume volunteers mean no
Pesach Samayaph
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:49 AM Dave Jones wrote:
> Back at you
> DJ
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So do I assume volunteers mean no pay ?
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:48 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote:
> On 4/8/20 7:58 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
> > (Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an
> activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a
>
Until Hercules is sanctioned by IBM I wouldnt mentioned it.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Grant Taylor <
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> On 4/8/20 1:13 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Brandon Tucker wrote:
> > Greetings!
>
> Hello,
>
> > I've always wondered if it was a good
ISPF edit session line commands to convert the line or block of lines to
uppercase.
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On
I know they're out there, John, because I worked for one for a few years. That
company closed its doors recently when the owner decided to retire, but they
can't be the only one.
If the details matter, that was InfoSec, Inc. They hired me in 2010 as part of
a team to do some work for a
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 08:33:50 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I agree totally but FWIW I find that the line commands UC and UCC/UCC go a
>long way toward making the process tolerable.
>
Context? ISPF Primary panel? TSO READY prompt? JCL? OMVS? Other (specify)?
(No habla UCC.)
I remember
I agree totally but FWIW I find that the line commands UC and UCC/UCC go a long
way toward making the process tolerable.
Charles
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To:
PartnerWorld membership doesnt provide the necessary access or downloads to
say “zpdt” to do development work ? This is what we do
Scott
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:07 AM Christopher Y. Blaicher <
cblaic...@syncsort.com> wrote:
> To me there is a difference between 'shortage of talent' and
To me there is a difference between 'shortage of talent' and independent (open)
development. IBM would be well served to make development platforms available,
but that is not what I want to discuss.
I think the shortage of talent is because no company wants to invest in talent
development for
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 07:02:26 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
>So, I kind of wish that the JCL converter or interpreter would accept JCL
>in lower case. In particular, upper casing the JCL statements which are not
>inclosed in ticks. It would just make my life easier. I.E JCL should ignore
>case when
Just a response to this comment, and I agree. " To me, the biggest problem for
z/OpenSource {grin} is the lack of an affordable platform for developers."
I have been developing an "open source" project for z/OS. So, I have run into
this many times, and it not just the hardware and z/OS, but
Don’t forget Hyperswap either if you are running that. IBM recommends no
reserves for that.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:41 AM Allan Staller wrote:
> All around, this is a really really bad idea. I understand you may not
> have a choice.
> Don’t forget:
>
> VSAM shareoptions
> SYSVSAM resource
>
>
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:21 AM Gord Tomlin
wrote:
> On 2020-04-09 07:05, John McKown wrote:
> >> If your objective is to do something interesting and mind-stimulating in
> >> your newly enlarged spare time, then there are massive number of open
> >> source projects you could contribute to.
All around, this is a really really bad idea. I understand you may not have a
choice.
Don’t forget:
VSAM shareoptions
SYSVSAM resource
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On 2020-04-09 07:05, John McKown wrote:
If your objective is to do something interesting and mind-stimulating in
your newly enlarged spare time, then there are massive number of open
source projects you could contribute to. There's a very good chance that
some such projects line up well with
Back at you
DJ
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W dniu 09.04.2020 o 13:05, John McKown pisze:
Is there a consulting company which hires "part timers"?
Yes. It's not common, that means most of people are full-time employees,
but I met several part-timers.
Even guy who was living in Warsaw, Poland and supported large
installation on East
Rob,
We do something similar with our SMF data offloads that are only processed on
one sysplex.
Take a look at info APAR II14297 for recommendations.
Regards,
Tom
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On 4/9/20 6:02 AM, John McKown wrote:
JCL should ignore
case when not in ticks.
Dragging z/OS kicking and screaming into the late 1970's.
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I like to use UNIX facilities. Especially some scripting languages, such as
awk. I use Co:Z instead of BPXBATCH. Anyway, sine UNIX is case sensitive,
my "embedded" scripts must be in lower case. I don't want to keep my
scripts in another file. So my JCL member has embedded lower case. Which
makes
Do you use ECS or VLF catalog caching? That sounds like a road to problems.
Kees.
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Subject: Opinions/experience on sharing catalogs outside plex
I am
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:20 PM Gord Tomlin
wrote:
> On 2020-04-08 16:29, Stan Saraczewski wrote:
> > Question - how does a semi retired person secure part time projects ?
> There
> > is a difficulty getting past the 40 hour a week retirement...
>
> This may sound facetious, but it's not meant to
Rob,
The manual, "MVS Planning: Global Resource Serialization" SA23-1389-30 has
information on sharing catalogs. SYSIGGV2 needs to use reserves. However, I
think you also need to use reserves on SYSZVVDS and SYSVTOC. From memory
(rather distant and not always reliable) there is also an IMS
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