Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
We have BMC's Mainview, and one can issue the TIOT command for a particular address space. I ran the command for *MASTER*, and there were no allocations for the volume in question. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
The original issue was "Why is *MASTER* holding a volume?" So, yes the suggestion is to dump (or look live if you have the tools) and the TIOT in *MASTER* looking for entries pointing to the volume and determine the dataset being held. I've never needed to do this, so don't ask me any more

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread kekronbekron
Thanks for the brief on what the TIOT is (which I could have looked up). However, I don't understand what you mean by 'run the TIOT in the master address space'. Do you mean to dump some address space, and then look for a specific data area with IPCS or some such? - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm not the editor, but if you click on the second URL, you should see "view history" at the top of the page. Look for the most recent October 29, 2021 update and click on previous. That will show you the change in question. As previously noted, it was stuffer that was deleted rather than

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
The Task I/O Table is a control block that lists all of the allocations for a jobstep. There is an entry for each allocated dataset, and each entry contains the relevant UCB addresses. If you're already familiar with the DSAB chain, you could search that instead.

Re: Assembler analysis

2021-11-02 Thread kekronbekron
Also check out https://www.capstone-engine.org/ plus a few of its related projects, such as Unicorn, Keystone, etc. I remember seeing (in their slides) IBM itself sponsoring or working on this too, w.r.t the Z parts. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 at 9:36

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread kekronbekron
Hi Seymour, For someone who doesn't understand (me), can you please elaborate what you mean by 'run the TIOT in the master address space'. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 at 8:02 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Run the TIOT in the Master address and see what

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 19:45:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >One of the wiki editors has removed mention of the term "noodle picker" from >[[IBM 2321 Data Cell]] with the explanation "Really remove unreferenced OR". >Does anybody have a reliaible source for this usage that I can cite? > I

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, no and no. There were direct access storage devices in the 1950s. MBBCCHHR is not the address that goes over the channel. M applies to all DASD, not just the 2321. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Warren Brown Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread CM Poncelet
AFAIK The time of the Earth's rotation is not a constant, but is subject to the variable position of its inner iron-core relative to the Earth's geometric center. The closer this inner iron-core is to the Earth's center, the faster too is the Earth's rotation - else, the further it is from the

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 11/2/2021 3:13 PM, Warren Brown wrote: Noodle picker is the grand daddy of DASD it you at DASD address you'l see MBBCCHHRR THE  first characters NBB are good for noodle picker only. I thought only BB were used for picking noodles. M is still by DASD to indicate which extent you wish to

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Warren Brown
Noodle picker is the grand daddy of DASD it you at DASD address you'l see MBBCCHHRR THE  first characters NBB are good for noodle picker only. On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 06:02:31 PM EDT, Phil Smith III wrote: I of course understand Wikipedia's desire for citation, but in cases

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, if challenged you need a citation with claims about colloquial usage. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Reliable source for slang term

Re: Reliable source for slang term "noodle picker"?

2021-11-02 Thread Phil Smith III
I of course understand Wikipedia's desire for citation, but in cases like this it's probably just not possible. Would it maybe pass muster if it says something like "colloquially known as the 'noodle picker'"? That makes it clearer that it's not official and perhaps unverifiable.

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Check for a lnklisted dataset on the volume( possibly added dynamically). SETPROG LNKLST, update,JOB(*) (syntax?) D U,alloc,ucbaddr,1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Mike Schwab
And I think adding a second inside a minute is a mistake. Seconds 00-59, Minutes 00-59, Length of day dependends on the planet. An Earth Day is usually 24:00.00 but can vary to 23:59:59 or 24:00:01, used to be about 11 hours 4 Billion years ago. Earth days seem to be longer by 1/3 of a second

Re: Variable length records for SYSIN data sets

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:39:17 -0500, Tom Wasik wrote: > > For RECFM V data sets, the LRECL is set to the length of the longest > record in the instream data. > Is that the length before or after SYMBOLS= substitution? What happens if substitution increases the length of that longest

Re: formatting help

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 09:33:28 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Everything I write from my Samsung e-mail clients is similarly flowed. We >kicked this around a couple of months ago. @Phil Smith analyzed what exactly >was happening. > Can you supply details or a citation (List; Date; Subject; or URL)?

Re: Variable length records for SYSIN data sets

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:39:17 -0500, Tom Wasik wrote: >How the internal reader handles instream data sets is documented here: >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=reader-record-length-sysin-data-sets >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=reader-sysin-record-formats >Also note that

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:33:17 -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: >>> >>... UTC falls back at a leap second. > >Nope. There is no fall back for leap seconds. They are *inserted* into the >time stream (Temporal Mechanics 101). When that happens, UTC goes from >11:59:59 to 11:59:60 to 00:00:00. It

Re: Variable length records for SYSIN data sets

2021-11-02 Thread Tom Wasik
How the internal reader handles instream data sets is documented here: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=reader-record-length-sysin-data-sets https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=reader-sysin-record-formats Also note that JES2 and JES3 work differently. But bottom line, for

Re: formatting help

2021-11-02 Thread Charles Mills
Sent from Samsung Android email client and probably will be mangled. Looks good on the client before I hit Send! CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 11/2/21 9:05 AM

Re: formatting help

2021-11-02 Thread Charles Mills
Everything I write from my Samsung e-mail clients is similarly flowed. We kicked this around a couple of months ago. @Phil Smith analyzed what exactly was happening. I will send an example right behind this one. (This is from an ancient Outlook running on Windows.) Charles -Original

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:51:00 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:46:56 +0100, Stefan Skoglund wrote: >> >>... UTC never changes, it increases monotonically ... >> >Those two statements contradict each other. And both are >incorrect. UTC falls back at a leap second. Nope.

Re: Assembler analysis

2021-11-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
"Supported", yes, but very likely only useful for zLinux binaries. The "supported file formats" on the url below only list "PE, ELF, Mach-O" as supported formats. z/OS executable formats (load module, program object) are not listed at all. Scroll down to the product version comparison table

Re: Assembler analysis

2021-11-02 Thread Jared Hunter
Peter wrote: > TANSTAFL -- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. You have to put in the > effort to understand the original code This, but with a twist. zArchitecture (s390 and s390x) are listed as supported by IDA Pro. https://hex-rays.com/products/ida/processors/ Depending on how

Re: formatting help

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Hi, Bob, On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 09:45:03 -0600, Bob Raicer wrote: >How about putting your assembler listing file, your job log, and any >other relevant (perhaps annotated) info into a single file (a zip >file as a container would be fine) > One other ply, this morrning from On Tue, 2 Nov 2021

Re: formatting help

2021-11-02 Thread Bob Raicer
How about putting your assembler listing file, your job log, and any other relevant (perhaps annotated) info into a single file (a zip file as a container would be fine) and plop it onto an easily accessible site (examples:  DropBox, Google Drive) and post the link in your message on this forum. 

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
It is a cloned RES volume. All of the datasets for our RES volumes are cataloged to '**'. When XCFAS and LLA were using that volume, we discovered two datasets in the link list which were cataloged to the volser. We updated the catalog entries for those datasets, rebuilt the link list, did

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Run the TIOT in the Master address and see what is allocated/ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Volume allocated to *MASTER* We are running

Re: Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
Are there any interesting datasets on the volume? Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 at 10:21 AM, PINION, RICHARD

Volume allocated to *MASTER*

2021-11-02 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
We are running z/OS 2.2. We have a volume that is allocated to *MASTER*. Originally, the volume was allocated to XCFAS LLA, and *MASTER*. We got XCFAS and LLA to release their allocations by updating the link list. However, we cannot determine what *MASTER* is holding. I've used SDSF's JD

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Stefan Skoglund
tis 2021-11-02 klockan 07:51 -0500 skrev Paul Gilmartin: > On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:46:56 +0100, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > > >    ... UTC never changes, it increases monotonically ... > > > Those two statements contradict each other.  And both are > incorrect.  UTC falls back at a leap second. >

Re: Data Exfiltration

2021-11-02 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Not sure how this matter migrated to IBM-MAIN. It is an ongoing discussion on RACF-L. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 02

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:46:56 +0100, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > >... UTC never changes, it increases monotonically ... > Those two statements contradict each other. And both are incorrect. UTC falls back at a leap second. -- gil

Re: Data Exfiltration

2021-11-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
"Re: ..."? This appears to be a followup with no original article. On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:35:05 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >If I were [more?] evil and wanted to exfiltrate data on a system where >IND$FILE was disabled/removed, I'd do as others have >suggested: convert the data to hex

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-02 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Thanks for the correction -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 3:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-02 Thread Stefan Skoglund
mån 2021-11-01 klockan 15:09 -0500 skrev Paul Gilmartin: > On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:19:31 -0700, Retired Mainframer wrote: > > > I think the answer is both.  AT 0700 UTC it will be 0200 CDT.  > > After an > > infinitely small interval, it will still be 0700 UTC but will be > > 0100 CST.  At > > the