Thanks to all that responded so far. I expected that there is a lot of history
behind the decisions and that makes the decisions persistent and difficult to
change. Although, as Ed pointed out, being able to be confident because of
different values is useful, it’s probably not an option to man
On 11/02/2023 7:42 am, Farley, Peter wrote:
I'd consider this to be a bug in the compiler. The listing pmap should show all
source statements, at the place where they are executed. If they are inlined
twice, they should be listed twice.
That sounds like it would ultimately be confusing. An in
I have CA Intertest Batch and COBOL 6.2 here and I have NEVER been able to stop
in ANY statement of an inlined paragraph.
But these are production-level programs that are far more complex than your
example.
Peter
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Re.:
IEC518I sfw err stat MLNOMTL
MLNOMTL Volume does not reside in this Manual Tape Library.
and
MLNOTVR No TCDB TVR entry exists for this MTL volume.
Just to tie up the loose end, Peter informed me that there was some kind of
typo in volume initialization.
Regards,
Mike Baldwin
Cartagena So
There are two cases for inlining:
1. The performed paragraph was only performed from one place
2. The performed paragraph was performed from multiple places
I just tested CA InterTest Batch with COBOL 6.2 at OPT(2),INLINE. It definitely
can stop (i.e. catch a breakpoint) set in case 1. For case
Hi,
We use different lpar names for our base systems and recovery system. And
we use that variable to choose the IPL sequence for each situation. As for
smfid and sysname, yes, they usually tend to be the same.
Regards
Jack
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 16:16 Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I’m doing some resear
On 2/10/2023 8:15 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I’m doing some research involving historical SMF data. It’s caused me to wonder how
engineers use the &SYSNAME, &LPARNAME and &SMFID symbols. From what I can see
is that in most instances they are the same. LPARNAME appears to me to have little valu
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 13:01, Phil Smith III wrote:
Is a 40-year-old tape going to be physically readable? I have no idea, but
> wonder. I have some 30-year-plus tapes in the basement, but hope not to
> ever
> care (and as time marches on, the odds of course reduce.)
>
I managed to read tapes fr
Well said Jim. And I know it is appreciated. Bob thought a lot of you. As you
know, I first crossed paths with Bob and you back in 2008. We hit it off
immediately and I joined you at OPM. I've lost a good friend and mentor.
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Is there a tribute to him at CBTTAPE?
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willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 2:20 PM
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Thanks Rebecca for the heartbreaking news. His absence will be felt for years
to come by members of this board. His technical knowledge and wit is lost
forever.I am sure, some place up there, Robert is smiling down on you and your
family.May he rest in place.
Willie.
On Wednesday, Februa
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 12:32:28 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 12:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>...
>> when the functions are inlined there is no entry point for them, no FPB or
>> FEPM compiler control data generated for them, etc.
>> > ...
>> That's just wrong. Even if the
I meant to add (but hit Send too soon), I am not as much concerned about *how*
the inlining is done as I am in getting the compiler to TELL me that it inlined
some functions, and where that was done.
It would be nice to be able to bypass some procedural code inside a function
when it is inlined
Tony,
IBM Sterling Forest used to have tape drives dating back to the stone age
for just this purpose. No idea what the process is to use them, if indeed
they still exist.
Is a 40-year-old tape going to be physically readable? I have no idea, but
wonder. I have some 30-year-plus tapes in th
I have found someone that will convert it. As it's 40 years old, I will
report back the success or failure of the conversion.
Tony Thigpen
M. Ray Mullins wrote on 2/10/23 11:57:
The only person that comes to mind is Al Kossow of Bitsavers, but based
on your other comment I understand the reluc
AFAIK, not the way inlining works on any z/OS compiler output I have ever seen.
Recent versions of Enterprise COBOL, for instance, can inline performed
paragraphs (and tell you that they did so) such that no HLL debugger known to
me can let you stop inside the inlined code. If you have to debu
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 12:25, Paul Gilmartin <
042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:58:49 +, Farley, Peter wrote:
>
> >I have been writing some MetalC programs and ran into a case where the
> normal OPTIMIZE setting (OPT(2)) provably inlined a couple
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:58:49 +, Farley, Peter wrote:
>I have been writing some MetalC programs and ran into a case where the normal
>OPTIMIZE setting (OPT(2)) provably inlined a couple of small functions. It is
>not immediately obvious in the MetalC ASM output, but when the functions are
>
I have been writing some MetalC programs and ran into a case where the normal
OPTIMIZE setting (OPT(2)) provably inlined a couple of small functions. It is
not immediately obvious in the MetalC ASM output, but when the functions are
inlined there is no entry point for them, no FPB or FEPM compi
The only person that comes to mind is Al Kossow of Bitsavers, but based
on your other comment I understand the reluctance of shipping. (He read
my old Prime tapes and back when Paul Allen's museum was running, they
became the base for their PRIMOS emulations.)
On 2023-02-09 17:32, Tony Thigpen
Matt
Of course the big difference is that SMFID is 4 characters and SYSNAME is 8 😊
I know that software vendors often run QA on systems where all three (incl
LPARNAME) are deliberately different to catch any assumptions made in code or
product sample JCL.
I have seen customers using different
I’m doing some research involving historical SMF data. It’s caused me to
wonder how engineers use the &SYSNAME, &LPARNAME and &SMFID symbols. From what
I can see is that in most instances they are the same. LPARNAME appears to me
to have little value in that if may or may not have an affinity
From Using Data Sets:
//ddname DD PATH='/dir1/dir2/file', ...
You can then use BPAM to read files as if they were members of a PDS or
PDSE.
Suppose the UNIX directory contains members tagged with various CCSIDs.
Is there a way to retrieve the CCSID of any member accessed?
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As a co-worker and friend of Bob's I reiterate every word, when he left
Boeing he left a hole there in more ways than one, I had no idea talking
to him that he was sick, struggling in any way, he never let it on. his
friendship and contribution will surly be missed.
thanks Jim for filling in t
Bob Richards will be missed by all up here in the greater DC area. When I was
the Data Center Technical Lead at the US Office of Personnel Management,
2001-2013, after retiring from the Air Force. I'd read Bob's posts and knew he
was well qualified. He and Rebecca were in Atlanta where Bob wa
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The OP might try Sungard or one of the other BR providers. They usually have
older devices available.
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There are several companies that specialize in tape conversions such as
https://datadesigninc.com/tape-media-data-conversions/
Just search 9 track tape conversions…
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