Great Info Tom, and timely, for me. Sent you an email to your address above, just to say Hi. ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - CustomPac intended removal date
Ha ha - I've setup calendar entries and phone alarms for mine so I don't forget and get in big trouble. FYI - Here's the chart I always use for the mainframe dates, in case anybody here doesn't know about it: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-mainframe-life-cycle-history On 5/20/2022 8:56 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > just went back and check - yup, June 30 2020 my wedding anniversary :) > > Carmen > > On 5/20/2022 10:38 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: >> Last microcode update for z13s was June 30, 2020. >> z14 dual frame coming up June 30, 2022 and ZR1 Sept 30, 2022 >> >> On 5/20/2022 8:29 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >>> that would be nice - but now with z13 and z13s processors you cannot >>> even get IBM to perform any hardware changes since those boxes are >>> EOS....I think last June ? >>> >>> we were somewhat lucky the processors are already IN THE BOX so an >>> MES of our Z13s was done in May before the EOS date to add a second >>> zIIP processor >>> >>> >>> Carmen >>> >>> >>> On 5/20/2022 10:21 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: >>>> Of course a free zIIP would be the best solution. But that's a >>>> decision to be made by sales people, while running z/OSMF remotely >>>> would be work (and maybe even a fun project) for a programmer. >>>> Now... which group would more likely say yes? In my experience, >>>> don't even bother trying to get something for free from someone in >>>> sales :) >>>> >>>> On 5/20/2022 6:14 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote: >>>>> One would think that since IBM is forcing everybody to use z/OSMF >>>>> they would accommodate their own customers and not force their >>>>> smallest ones into expensive upgrades just to run this software. As >>>>> Seymour mentioned, since zIIPs and the like are all normal >>>>> processors, IBM should be able to build a bit of microcode to use >>>>> an unlicensed engine to run z/OSMF. >>>>> >>>>> Rex >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >>>>> Behalf Of Tom Brennan >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 9:04 PM >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - >>>>> CustomPac intended removal date >>>>> >>>>> Since z/OSMF is written in java, then why can't that high-CPU work >>>>> run on another platform such as Power or x86, and then communicate >>>>> with the mainframe for the z/OS work (i.e. submit jobs or whatever >>>>> it does to run the actual installation). Or am I thinking too far >>>>> out of the box? >>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/2022 6:15 PM, David Crayford wrote: >>>>>> On 20/5/22 08:23, Andrew Rowley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Having a zIIP gives you plenty of horsepower for z/OSMF, and having >>>>>>>> an IBM z15 gives you System Recovery Boost which gives >>>>>>>> you…plenty of >>>>>>>> horsepower for z/OSMF at least during the first 60 minutes. (It’s >>>>>>>> the z/OSMF startup that can take a long time on a low capacity >>>>>>>> configuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if once people start using z/OSMF, it's not >>>>>>> just the startup that is slow on a small system. Maybe IBM should >>>>>>> give everyone one zIIP with their z/OS 2.5 license... it might even >>>>>>> be a useful stimulus for smaller z/OS sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 100% agree. 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