[giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread John McKown
Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both COBOL and CICS. We _are_ getting off of z/OS. But a "sticking point" (PITA) is the COBOL and CICS code (somehow). We had planned on using Microfocus for our needs. I have heard that management is now in "sticker shock" mode

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Chris Hoelscher
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? Why am I giggling? I had

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Vince Coen
Have you looked at Gnu Cobol (formally known as Open Cobol) v2 compiler? https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-cobol/ Converting the CICS code is another issue. On 17/12/15 14:23, John McKown wrote: > Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both > COBOL and CICS.

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Vince Coen wrote: > Have you looked at Gnu Cobol (formally known as Open Cobol) v2 compiler? > ​Yes, I've messed around with that a fair amount. I identified about 2500 batch COBOL program​s at work & downloaded them to my Linux desktop. About

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both COBOL and CICS. We _are_ getting o

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Grinsell, Don
Tony, I got a real chuckle out of your first sentence and it's not even Friday yet. I had to read it twice to be sure. Regards, Don -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov "I'll sleep when I'm dead..." ~ Warren Zevon

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
Ok, I know what I intended to say. But, what did you read that made it read funny? (I re-read it but am missing something.) :-) Tony Thigpen Grinsell, Don wrote on 12/17/2015 12:39 PM: Tony, I got a real chuckle out of your first sentence and it's not even Friday yet. I had to read it

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Ward, Mike S
ROFLMAO. :0 What goes around. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? Why

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
This is why the company I work with (Prozgroup) is doing real well. We put small, suppository "going away" z systems on our floor on down-sized equipment creating a "z in the cloud" environment. Once the costs are minimized, it usually becomes cheaper to leave the applications on the

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 December 2015 at 12:43, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Ok, I know what I intended to say. But, what did you read that made it read > funny? (I re-read it but am missing something.) :-) I think he's inferring that your "going away" z systems would have to be *very* small indeed...

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > John, > > I well remember my own sticker shock when I first spoke with MicroFocus > sales several decades ago. As a consultant at that time, I wanted to > license a single copy of their COBOL and CICS

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Schwab
A rehosting product. http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/1721980 A PDF document. Mainframe Rehosting Ugly Truths - Confex On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:23 AM, John McKown wrote: > Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both > COBOL and

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > A rehosting product. > http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/1721980 ​Thanks. That is interesting. As mentioned in another thread by me today, this need has, just today, died. The z decommissioning has been

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Charles Mills
y, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? John, I well remember my own sticker shock when I first spoke with MicroFocus sales several decades ago. As a consultant at that

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 17 December 2015 at 12:43, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Ok, I know what I intended to say. But, what did you read that made it > read > > funny? (I re-read it but am missing something.) :-) > > I think

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
No, he spotted a prophetic spell-check error. The word "suppository" vs. "supposedly". (Got the answer off-line.) We just transfered MVS system from 82 mips to a 27 mips z/10-A01. And, we still have enough capacity to put a second such customer on the same box. We are only using 1/3 the box

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Grinsell, Don
- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:43 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? > > Ok, I know what I intended to s

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? > > Why am I giggling? I had one of our programmer's ask me about z390, both > COBOL and CICS. We _are_ getting off of z/OS. But a "sticking point" (PITA) is > the COBOL

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 December 2015 at 12:54, Tony Thigpen wrote: > No, he spotted a prophetic spell-check error. Which is not inconsistent with my explanation... Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist?

2015-12-17 Thread Keith Smith
ember 17, 2015 10:43 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: [giggling] Does anybody use z390, other than as a hobbist? > > > > Ok, I know what I intended to say. But, what did you read that made it > read > > funny? (I re-read it but am missing something.)