Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 21/05/2024 12:50 am, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: The only thing I still cannot do is to convince my students the z/OS<->PC data exchange is easy and well tooled. It will never be easy due to complications from EBCDIC and record structure. Even IBM frequently gets it wrong. There are new

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 May 2024 00:03:54 +, Farley, Peter wrote: > >However, caveat emptor – if your default TSO profile sets the PROFILE >parameter to your user ID, that “cd pds.library” command will fail because it >does not start with HLQ = your user ID. > IBM allows but discourages TSO prefix

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Farley, Peter
” command will fail because it does not start with HLQ = your user ID. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 5:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT) That's what I do all the time, too ... a little more

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
That's what I do all the time, too ... a little more info: ftp /* mvs asks for user and password */ /* I am now at "USER01." ... if my TSO-ID is USER01 */ cd .. /* I am now at "" ... top level */ cd pds.library /* I get an answer like "pds.library is a partitioned data set" */ prompt ascii mget

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 May 2024 16:50:13 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >It is not matter of belief. I just performed a test. >FTP GUI from IBM, part of PCOMM. >Note, it is IBM. More: it is part of PCOMM. They know z/OS, etc. >1. I tried to move/copy some directory. >2. I tried to create a directory on host

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Schmitt, Michael
And ordinary command line FTP. For example, Windows: prompt ascii quote site notrail mget * -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 11:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
It is not matter of belief. I just performed a test. FTP GUI from IBM, part of PCOMM. Note, it is IBM. More: it is part of PCOMM. They know z/OS, etc. 1. I tried to move/copy some directory. 2. I tried to create a directory on host side. In both case a PDS was created. I cannot choose RECFM,

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
I can't believe you put a GUI FTP client in a list of not-acceptable options. If that does not work for you, you are just too picky. Tony Thigpen Radoslaw Skorupka wrote on 5/19/24 3:07 PM: Which platform? ALL. That means Windows, Linux and Mac. We can omit OS/2 or VMS or DG-UX or QNX or etc.

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Which platform? ALL. That means Windows, Linux and Mac. We can omit OS/2 or VMS or DG-UX or QNX or etc. Which codepages? All. Let's say all supported by z/OS when using FTP or iconv. FTP GUI clients? Yet another XMIT viewer? Both do not satisfy all the needs. Last but not least - nowadays it

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-19 Thread Charles Mills
You know, I don't think I have ever had to think about it. I just started using WS_FTP and it just worked. My C { braces } and [ brackets ] and my Rexx |. (I use \ for logical not.) Perhaps I have forgotten some issue. But I use WS_FTP across four systems, some of them relatively new to me, so

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:49:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >Bluezone FTP lets you copy the entire PDS to a directory on your PC and change >from EBCDIC to ASCII. I have been using it for years. > > What code page(s) does it support? How does it deal with characters not in the target character

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Brian Westerman
Bluezone FTP lets you copy the entire PDS to a directory on your PC and change from EBCDIC to ASCII. I have been using it for years. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2024 8:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT) I'm late to the party here so I'm not sure if what I quote below is the original query but unless I am missing something, most or all of the Windows graphical FTP clients will do that. FileZilla is free. WS_FTP

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Charles Mills
I'm late to the party here so I'm not sure if what I quote below is the original query but unless I am missing something, most or all of the Windows graphical FTP clients will do that. FileZilla is free. WS_FTP may be free for individual use. There may be others. They will graphically expand a

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Robert Prins
https://github.com/dmolony/Xmit by Dennis Molony, written in Java, so Windoze, Linux and Mac are supported, as are user-defined code-pages. Robert On Sat, 18 May 2024 at 21:37, Mike Schwab < 05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Here's what is available. Please submit any

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Here's what is available. Please submit any additions you may know. https://www.cbttape.org/xmitview.htm On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 4:32 PM Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:15:26 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >... > >Yes, we

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:15:26 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >Yes, we have some freeware XMIT viewers, we have some homegrown REXX >scripts, etc. > for which desktop target platforms? >But it is continuous reinventing the wheel. >IMHO it is up to IBM to assign few folks for few weeks to

Re: ./ ADD - which utility? (RANT)

2024-05-18 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 14.04.2024 o 03:01, Michael Oujesky pisze: I really miss WSA and it's ability to take a text PDS and transfer all the members to Windows creating individual members in the target directory and doing the EBCDIC to ASCII translation for each member in the PDS. I'm really upset and I