Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8675686473977785.wa.peterteneyckfarmfamily@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/03/2014 at 01:51 PM, Peter Ten Eyck peter_tene...@farmfamily.com said: It would seem that coding SYSUDUMP in the JCL and running LE with something like TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) would be the way to go. SYSUDUMP is fine as

Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjigfmpcacjfeyy+dt_hoaagxv97zjtayee3y6h_hq5...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/03/2014 at 01:36 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I must somewhat disagree, or perhaps just partially. IPCS is great. I really like it. But for batch cycle jobs, I would strongly recommend a product

Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP. I think that if the LE runtime is running as TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96) an LE dump will be produced if a CEEDUMP DD is coded or not. But if you do not code the SYSUDUMP DD you will not get a dump is some cases were LE cannot produce one.. correct

Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-03 Thread Don Poitras
=user.SYSMDUMP (the FREE=CLOSE bit is needed if you have recursive abends. Usually only the first is interesting.) In article 2785252460650909.wa.peterteneyckfarmfamily@listserv.ua.edu you wrote: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP. I think that if the LE runtime is running

Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-03 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Don Poitras sas...@sas.com wrote: I resisted learning IPCS for years. I'd be in deep trouble without it today. For LE programs, you get the best of both SYSUDUMP (you can see all the storage you may need) and CEEDUMP (IP VERBX LEDATA gives you the same stuff.)

Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
My concern is that if CEEDUMP is coded instead of SYSUDUMP, that in certain cases (we just had a SOC1 like this) no dump is produced. The LE environment was not able to produce a dump. What about old COBOL programs or Assembler programs when using CEEDUMP? It would seem that coding SYSUDUMP in

Re: Batch cycle JCL standard... CEEDUMP or SYSUDUMP

2014-12-03 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/3/2014 12:51 PM, Peter Ten Eyck wrote: My concern is that if CEEDUMP is coded instead of SYSUDUMP, that in certain cases (we just had a SOC1 like this) no dump is produced. The LE environment was not able to produce a dump. What about old COBOL programs or Assembler programs when using