Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-09 Thread Smith III, Phil (HPE Data Security (Voltage))
Gil, Contact me off-list if you haven't heard from me already (I have an email address for you but it may be old). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with t

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 09:02:25 -0400, zMan wrote: >OK, fair 'nuff! I'm on a horrible connection, wasn't inclined to dig. >Has anyone asked them? Just wondering. They at least used to be a great >company. > They won't talk to me, or even let me subscribe to their own LISTSERV unless I have a customer

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-09 Thread zMan
OK, fair 'nuff! I'm on a horrible connection, wasn't inclined to dig. Has anyone asked them? Just wondering. They at least used to be a great company. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:29:39 -0400, zMan

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:29:39 -0400, zMan wrote: >Before blaming L-Soft, it probably makes sense to be sure the list is >running current software. I know many lists are way backlevel... > The logo at the top of this page shows "LISTSERV 16.0". The page at http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv_os.

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-09 Thread zMan
SHA1 > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:36:00 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht > (elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za) wrote about "Curse you, L-Soft!" (in > <8733075135946583.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>): > > > David W Noon wrote: > [snip] > >> Hash

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread David W Noon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:36:00 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht (elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za) wrote about "Curse you, L-Soft!" (in <8733075135946583.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>): > David W Noon wrote: [snip] >&g

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 18:24:29 +0100, David W Noon wrote: > >Mutt has always been very RFC-compliant. > Meaning both that it obeys the rules in the RFCs and doesn't invent any of its own. >Microsoft sets the standards. > I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! >Another problem with

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
David W Noon wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- First time I see this prefix message with PGP and word MESSAGE. Hmmm, interesting. I really need to do drink coffee and then RTFM... >Hash: SHA1 You're using SHA1, not SHA256? Ok, what e-mail software are you using. If you don't wan

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 09:16:18 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (Paul Gilmartin) wrote about Curse you, L-Soft!: [snip] > According to various experiments and headers of off-list messages: > > MacOS Mail.app sends utf-8 as quoted-printable but deals corectly with > incoming 8-bit/ > > Fr

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(off-list) On 2017-08-08, at 10:50, David W Noon wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 01:45:22 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht (Elardus > Engelbrecht ) wrote about Re: Curse > you, L-Soft!: > >> David W Noon wrote: >> >

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread David W Noon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 01:45:22 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht (Elardus Engelbrecht ) wrote about Re: Curse you, L-Soft!: > David W Noon wrote: > > >Sometimes Base64 or other binary-safe encoding is required by RFC. > > So I see. Than

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(sent via web interface) On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 01:45:22 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >David W Noon wrote: > >>Sometimes Base64 or other binary-safe encoding is required by RFC. > >So I see. Thanks. Wish Shmuel is here, he certainly has something to say about >all these RFC requirements... > Acc

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
David W Noon wrote: >Sometimes Base64 or other binary-safe encoding is required by RFC. So I see. Thanks. Wish Shmuel is here, he certainly has something to say about all these RFC requirements... >MTA = Mail Transfer Agent >This is/are the SMTP server(s) used to move email around. >Using a fu

Re: base64 encoding (was Curse you, L-Soft!)

2017-08-07 Thread π
On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 03:45:08PM -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: > > As an experiment, I will try adding some "unusual" characters (like > degree ° and check__✔) to force Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit and see > what the list does to this message.__ > (antiquated) MacOS Mail.app seems to force Q-

Re: base64 encoding (was Curse you, L-Soft!)

2017-08-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:45:08 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: > > As an experiment, I will try adding some "unusual" characters (like >degree ° and check__✔) to force Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit and see >what the list does to this message.__ > It came to me as: Content-Type: text/plain; charse

Re: base64 encoding (was Curse you, L-Soft!)

2017-08-07 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 08/07/2017 01:54 PM, David W Noon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:08:20 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht > (elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za) wrote about "Re: Curse you, L-Soft!" > (in <6156763411207138.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>): > >> Paul Gil

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-07 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:08:20 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht (elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za) wrote about "Re: Curse you, L-Soft!" (in <6156763411207138.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>): > Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> I can neither submit an SR to L-Soft no

Re: Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >I can neither submit an SR to L-Soft nor rant on the L-Soft mailing list >because I'm not a registered L-Soft customer. I feel your pain. I also wanted to moan and b*tch about base 64 encoding amongst other things, but ... >o When I attempt to reply to a submitter rathe

Curse you, L-Soft!

2017-08-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I can neither submit an SR to L-Soft nor rant on the L-Soft mailing list because I'm not a registered L-Soft customer. And no owner of a LISTSERV to which I subscribe seems interested in championing my cause. So, I'll vent here (again). Mostly about composing or replying via the Web interface. o