Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-26 Thread Graham Harris
3/25/2013, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Dataset > >DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS: > > > >>On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson > wrote: > >>> > >>>//SYSUT3 DD UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,10),DISP=(NEW,CATLG) > >>> > &

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:21:00 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >At 14:00 -0500 on 03/25/2013, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Dataset >DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS: > >>On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >>> >>>//SYSUT3 DD UNIT=33

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:00 -0500 on 03/25/2013, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: Now, go whack the person that wrote the JCL that has the following similarly coded DD statement: //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=3390,SPACE

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:40 + on 03/25/2013, Gibney, Dave wrote about Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS: Actually, the missing NVR (NonVsam Record) as suggested by Allan should have accomplished the task. It basically tells IDCAMS not to fail if the Catalog record is missing. Dave Gibney

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2013 14:32, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > At 12:49 -0500 on 03/25/2013, Ducky duke wrote about Dataset DELETE question >> Tried with IDCAMS DELETE : >> >> //STEP010 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS >> //DD01 DD DSN=SYS12048.T104505.RA000.IBMUSER.R018, >> // DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=WORK01,UNIT

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
nt > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:41:52 -0500, Nguyen Dt wrote: > > >Tested the delete with IDCAMS NVR option, doesn't work .. do i miss &

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Greg Shirey
Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS >>Now,

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:41:52 -0500, Nguyen Dt wrote: >Tested the delete with IDCAMS NVR option, doesn't work .. do i miss something >? ... >IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 102 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFP-7 "The data set was not deleted because it was open." Did you even try to look up t

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Nguyen Dt
Tested the delete with IDCAMS NVR option, doesn't work .. do i miss something ? (WORK03 is SMS managed) /STEP010 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS /SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* /DD01 DD DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=WORK03,UNIT=3390

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:00:49 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >> >>Now, go whack the person that wrote the JCL that has the following >>similarly coded DD statement: >> >>//SYSUT3 DD UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,10),DISP=(NEW,CATLG) Has this ever b

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Thompson
From: "Pommier, Rex R." Date: 03/25/2013 03:49 PM Gil and Steve (and probably others who feel the same way), Before you get too whack-happy, there are other reasons why something like this could show up. At some point in the deep, dark past, if the system fell over for whatever reason (

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2013-03-25 13:44, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: > Gil and Steve (and probably others who feel the same way), > > If IBM has added a cleanup routine, or if it is found that some poor JCL > coder did code a DISP on a temporary dataset, then by all means, whack away. > :-) > I often code (,PASS), an

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
set DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: > >Now, go whack the person that wrote the JCL that has the following >similarly coded DD statement: > >//SYSUT3 DD UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,10),DISP=(NEW,CATLG) > >This is what pro

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: > >Now, go whack the person that wrote the JCL that has the following >similarly coded DD statement: > >//SYSUT3 DD UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,10),DISP=(NEW,CATLG) > >This is what produces a data set name like this: >SYS12048.T104505.RA000.IBMUS

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Ducky duke Date: 03/25/2013 02:04 PM Hi all, I have some temporary files not deleted. Seen with 3.4 with volume given. When i tried to delete them , i had an error message (entry not found) Listcat gave this : LISTCAT ENTRIES(SYS12048.T104505.RA000.IBMUSER.R018) IDC3012I ENTR

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS > > At 12:49 -0500 on 03/25/2013, Ducky duke wrote about D

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:49 -0500 on 03/25/2013, Ducky duke wrote about Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS: Hi all, I have some temporary files not deleted. Seen with 3.4 with volume given. When i tried to delete them , i had an error message (entry not found) Listcat gave this : LISTCAT ENTRIES

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
DSN not Catalogued. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Ducky duke Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:49:46 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Dataset DELETE question

Re: Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Staller, Allan
You do not mention whether the volume/dataset are SMS managed (or not). DELETE FILE in idcams only uses the DD statement for volume/vvds access. It is essentially trying to do a "normal delete" (including the catalog update). IEFBR14 does not care if the dataset is cataloged or not. It merely l

Dataset DELETE question : IEBFR14 vs IDCAMS

2013-03-25 Thread Ducky duke
Hi all, I have some temporary files not deleted. Seen with 3.4 with volume given. When i tried to delete them , i had an error message (entry not found) Listcat gave this : LISTCAT ENTRIES(SYS12048.T104505.RA000.IBMUSER.R018) IDC3012I ENTRY SYS12048.T104505.RA000.IBMUSER.R01