Delaying response to a message

2016-05-30 Thread Zahir Hemini
Is there a maximum number of outstanding WTORs allowed? How long does a message token last. I have to build a piece of fairly complex logic that has to read data and do look ups before responding to a console message. It can have extreme variability in finding and waiting for a response. Most of

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-30 Thread Charles Mills
the underlying program may not be an option for you. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Zahir Hemini Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 10:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Delaying response to a message Is there a

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
onday, May 30, 2016 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Delaying response to a message To answer the question that you actually asked, I think I have seen products that successfully leave a WTOR pending for days. Moving on to the question you did not ask, I know you'

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-30 Thread Zahir Hemini
Thank you. Yes I do not have any options for rewriting the application itself. If grew out of old methods of displaying a message, having it looked up, then a response given by the operator. I cannot touch the underlying application, but I have to make it work in context of a fully automated sta

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: 30 May, 2016 20:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Delaying response to a message The perpetually outstanding WTOR is indeed a throwback to very old

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-31 Thread Zahir Hemini
Thanks Kees. When there are lots of outstanding WTORs for all the IMS and other subsystems it can flood the console and you don't see other messages going by. In my code example I make them non-display so they never actually apprear on the console, but it means that I could have 47 invisible WTO

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-05-31 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 30, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > To answer the question that you actually asked, I think I have seen products > that successfully leave a WTOR pending for days. > > Moving on to the question you did not ask, I know you're dealing with the > responses, not the design of

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-02 Thread Zahir Hemini
>We had jobs with an outstanding WTOR that would last for 2 or so weeks. Never >an issue. > >Ed Did you allow them to stack up on the console? or did you K E,? them? and if so how did you keep track of which reply numbers were outstanding hidden off the console? ---

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-02 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
SDSF or D R,L Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Zahir Hemini Sent: 02 June, 2016 20:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Delaying response to a message >We had jobs with an outstanding WTOR that wo

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-03 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Zahir Hemini wrote: > >> We had jobs with an outstanding WTOR that would last for 2 or so weeks. >> Never an issue. >> >> Ed > > Did you allow them to stack up on the console? or did you K E,? them? and if > so how did you keep track of which reply numbers were o

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-04 Thread Zahir Hemini
>> Did you allow them to stack up on the console? or did you K E,? them? and if >> so how did you keep track of which reply numbers were >>outstanding hidden >> off the console? > >The op k e,1’d them. They did a d r,l to get the message number. I wasn’t >watching the console that closely but th

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-04 Thread Edward Gould
At one job I was on the standards committee and ended up writing quite a few COBOL/JOB/JCL standards. One of the first was that no COBOL (no other languages were permitted) could not have any WTORS. Some programmers objected to it and we got in a nice discussion about operators priorities and I

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-05 Thread Dan Little
I am away for 3 weeks so cannot try till I am home. On Saturday, 4 June 2016, Edward Gould wrote: > > On Jun 2, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Zahir Hemini > wrote: > > > >> We had jobs with an outstanding WTOR that would last for 2 or so weeks. > Never an issue. > >> > >> Ed > > > > Did you allow them to s

Re: Delaying response to a message

2016-06-14 Thread Scott Fagen
> Is there a maximum number of outstanding WTORs allowed? How long does a > message token last. There are two CONSOLxx parameters, RLIM and RMAX, that govern WTOR and REPLY behavior. These can be dynamically changed via the CONTROL M (K M) command. RLIM sets the REPLY LIMIT, number of WTORs t