Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-26 Thread Robin Atwood
ries which are being developed on workstations. Thanks Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 25 November 2013 20:26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
nframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On Behalf Of Robin Atwood > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 1:48 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp > > > > Thanks to everyone who repl

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
SERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp > > Thanks to everyone who replied. The server is a part of a product and so installation > must have a minimal impact on a customer's system. I am currently going with > using the last backup date as an

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-25 Thread Robin Atwood
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 22 November 2013 21:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp Ah, my bad, I didn't realize this was not for an in-house type pr

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread efinnell15
There are tools to do this. Data Propagator and STRIVA come to mind. Overhead is pretty steep. In a message dated 11/22/13 08:32:31 Central Standard Time, abend...@gmail.com writes: However I imagine it would be a bit of a hard sell to the customers. :) --

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Charles Mills
Robin - What checksum are you using that is too CPU intensive? Have you considered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MurmurHash ? It is about 4 to 8 times as fast as most hash schemes because (1) it is of non-cryptographic quality and (2) it operates on entire words at once, rather than bytes. You can

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
6:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp > > One possibility, which is not simply by any means, is to use the SMF data in "real > time", with the SMF IEFU8x exits, to trap the SMF type 15 records (non-VSAM > open for O

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
t; Thanks > Robin > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: 22 November 2013 20:14 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp &

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
2013 20:14 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp One possibility, which is not simply by any means, is to use the SMF data in "real time", with the SMF IEFU8x exits, to trap the SMF type 15 records (non-VSAM open for OUTPUT or UPDAT) an

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
scussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of retired mainframer > Sent: 22 November 2013 00:54 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp > > For a non-VSAM dataset, the last reference date in the F1 DSCB does not > mean

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent: 22 November 2013 16:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp The F1 DSCB does contain a flag, DS1IND02, which indicates a dataset has b

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Robin Atwood
--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: 22 November 2013 15:11 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp Maybe via SMF records ? On 21.11.2013 13:48, Robin At

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread retired mainframer
n List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>: Behalf Of Robin Atwood :>: Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:49 PM :>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>: Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp :>: :>: So both you and Lizette are saying that even I can obtain it, the :

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Maybe via SMF records ? On 21.11.2013 13:48, Robin Atwood wrote: I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data set last changed. For non-VSAM it's easy (if a bit vague), there's the last reference date in the F1 DSCB. For VSAM you can see a SYSTEM-TIMESTAMP in the LISTCAT

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-21 Thread Robin Atwood
Sent: 22 November 2013 00:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp For a non-VSAM dataset, the last reference date in the F1 DSCB does not mean the dataset was changed on that date, only that it was opened (and closed?), even if only

Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-21 Thread Robin Atwood
I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data set last changed. For non-VSAM it's easy (if a bit vague), there's the last reference date in the F1 DSCB. For VSAM you can see a SYSTEM-TIMESTAMP in the LISTCAT output but how do you get that from a program? We currently use IGGCSI0

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
DU] On > Behalf Of Robin Atwood > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:48 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp > > I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data set last changed. For > non-VSAM it's ea

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-21 Thread retired mainframer
;: Behalf Of Robin Atwood :>: Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:48 AM :>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>: Subject: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp :>: :>: I want our file server to be able to tell the clients when a data set :>: last :>: changed. For non-VSAM