Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-10-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-10-01 o 16:24, Longabaugh, Robert E pisze: SMS VSAM is handled through Media Manager, so even if you bypass or shut down an allocation manager product, Media Manager consolidates the extents, which gets in the way of VSAM running out of space. IMHO it is not true for allocation

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-10-01 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? On 9/30/2015 4:31 PM, Thomas Conley wrote: > On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >> I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny >> SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary >&g

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-10-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Longabaugh, Robert E Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? SMS VSAM is handled through Media Manager, so even if you bypa

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-10-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? On 9/30/2015 4:31 PM, Thomas Conley wrote: > On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >> I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny >> SMS-managed VSAM

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? If you do a F DIF,STATUS from the SD

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? Peter, Space constraint relief is part of the DATACLAS construct, not the Storage Class. These are the collective functions that will cause SPACE requests to be overridden, space reduction, and additional volumes to be added to you

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program and I

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/30/2015 4:31 PM, Thomas Conley wrote: On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor to secondary volumes. I need to test some

How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
t; Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? > > I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM > KSDS that will NOT extend,

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-09-30 o 18:24, Farley, Peter x23353 pisze: I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread John Clifford
Most shops have a STORCLAS(NONSMS) defined which allows sys-progs to bypass all SMS allocations and use vol-ser for placement. If you have that defined then create a KSDS with STORCLAS(NONSMS) VOLUME(xx) trk(1 0). John Clifford On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What problems are you attempting to solve by enforcing this? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:25 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? I

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? What problems are you attempting to solve

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? This is an EXTERNAL email. If the sender is not recognized, do not open attachments or click on any Internet links within the message. As I said, I need to check some application program

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? Interesting! Please, do the following LISTCAT ENT

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some SMS rules. We

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? This is an EXTERNAL email. If the sender is not recognized, do not open attachments or click on any Internet links within the message. I have no way to check the storage or management classes, I

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry missed that! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:38 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? As I said, I need to check some

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume? I have reached out to that organization