Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-10-13 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
I must confess, I learned something quite new here. I didn't realize ISRDDN, B or E line actions were taking the first 16 extents of the concatenation! Cool. I must remember to use the LONG command in the future to prevent being misdirected on my part. Thanks to all for you're posts and resea

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0654728648182988.wa.jeff.ruegseggeravnet@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/29/2014 at 05:58 PM, "Ruegsegger, Jeff" said: >I've run across something strange. I was modifying an IPCS clist >in our in house CLIST library. CLIST or REXX? >Whilst using ISRDDN to locate the correct version I no

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Dave Salt
0 Sep 2014 13:03:45 -0400 > From: ds...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > From: rpomm...@sfgmembers.com > > Hmm, I never use option 2 so I > didn't even know it would concatenate the various "group"

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Dave Salt
> From: rpomm...@sfgmembers.com > Hmm, I never use option 2 so I didn't even know it would concatenate the various "group" level datasets together. > Been working on z/OS since the MVS XA days and never needed that capability. I wonder if very many people use it. In my experience not many pe

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:03:45 +, Pommier, Rex wrote

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:03:45 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >What I did find interesting is that if I "E"dit the SYSPROC concatenation, >and then select a member that is in one of the libraries, ISPF copies that >library into the first DSN in my concatenation and edits the copy that it >placed ther

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-09-30, at 08:47, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > I don't think ISRDDN gives a rip about these edit rules - other than the one > about mixing legacy and Unix. > And that's treacherous in that ISRDDN will report only a member in a Legacy data set while BLDL will find a similarly named member in a

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS Menu RefList RefMode Utilities Workstation Help

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:03:27 +, Pommier, Rex wrote

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:03:27 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: > >Not sure what you mean by 3-level concatenation. ... > Menu RefList RefMode Utilities Workstation Help — ISREDM01 Edit Entry Panel

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS On 2014-09-30, at 07:03, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > What

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-09-30, at 07:03, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > What I did find interesting is that if I "E"dit the SYSPROC concatenation, > and then select a member that is in one of the libraries, ISPF copies that > library into the first DSN in my concatenation and edits the copy that it > placed there. I

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
] On Behalf Of Ruegsegger, Jeff Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS I've run across something strange. I was modifying an IPCS clist in our in house CLIST library. Whilst using ISRDDN to locate the correct version I

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:58:53 -0500, Ruegsegger, Jeff wrote: > When I select browse from ISRDDN SYSPROC concatenantion I'm actually browsing > the SYS1.SBLSCLI0 library. How is it that I only see the alias name when > using ISRDDN and not in TSO BROWSE? I would suggest you are misinterpreting

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:03:27 +1000, Hank Oerlemans wrote: >What do you mean by TSO BROWSE ? > >An alias, for a data PDS, is nothing more than a duplicate directory entry >with the same TTR as the primary member. >Alias bit is on. > The OP appeared to be discussing an alias for a PDS (as you said

Re: ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-29 Thread Hank Oerlemans
What do you mean by TSO BROWSE ? An alias, for a data PDS, is nothing more than a duplicate directory entry with the same TTR as the primary member. Alias bit is on. I'm not aware of any genuine historical support for managing a "create date" for an alias entry in a data PDS. (Maybe I should

ISRDDN SHOWS MEMBER ALIAS

2014-09-29 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
I've run across something strange. I was modifying an IPCS clist in our in house CLIST library. Whilst using ISRDDN to locate the correct version I noticed that library contained quite a few BLS members. When I select browse from ISRDDN SYSPROC concatenantion I'm actually browsing the S