Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ssage- From: Albertus To: IBM-MAIN Date: Monday, 7 February 2022 1:15 PM CST Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? Yes. there is a freeware Broadcast utility available on the CBT tape - sorry - do not recall the file #. With this you can browse the broadcast dataset message

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Albertus de Wet
___ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 2:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? > > On Sun, 6 F

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Charles Mills
.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? Check the SYSLOG. Scott On Monday, February 7, 2022, 10:05:45 AM EST, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw <032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I think the TSO command SEND runs APF authorised. This does at least gi

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread A T & T Management
.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 2:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 10:17, Seymo

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
al Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: 07 February 2022 13:10 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? Perhaps I remembered the logic incorrectly, or perhaps it has changed. If the command does its own access the the br

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 2:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 10:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > No. There are s

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of CM Poncelet [03e99a92061c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 11:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? The JCL keeps a copy of whatever is TSO sent (as

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-06 Thread CM Poncelet
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > CM Poncelet [03e99a92061c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] > Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 11:03 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? > > FWIW No idea

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 10:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > No. There are several scenarios, as I noted on Friday, February 4, 2022 12:15 > PM, and that CLIST doesn't help for any of them. You could use a GTF trace > and look at the parameters for MGCR, TPUT and WTO. The only logging that the > syst

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 11:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? FWIW No idea whether this would help finding where TSOSEND data is logged (try a GTF + parms, if 'critically important') - but I would susp

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-05 Thread CM Poncelet
2022 18:43, Charles Mills wrote: > 1. I am running ISPF full screen. So once I hit Enter the message seems to > be gone, gone, gone. > > 2. The particular SENDs that I am interested in is sent from a batch job > with Rexx Address TSO "SEND ... but the question was intended to be ge

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 04/02/2022 22:42, Seymour J Metz wrote: Dead tree or online? URL? Google is your friend (in this case):    https://zh.booksc.eu/book/30664578/d49035 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? On 04/02/2022 21:06, Seymour J Metz wrote: > "A Timer-sharing display terminal session manager", J. M. McCrossin, R. P. > O'Hara, L. R. Koster, IBM Systems Journal 17, Number 3, 1978 pp. 260-275 says >

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 04/02/2022 21:06, Seymour J Metz wrote: "A Timer-sharing display terminal session manager", J. M. McCrossin, R. P. O'Hara, L. R. Koster, IBM Systems Journal 17, Number 3, 1978 pp. 260-275 says it started as Research Display Facility at the T. J. Watson Research Center in Yorktown Heights.

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
mentation. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Steve Smith [sasd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Tom Brennan
I don't know what it is, but SM just bugs me. Kind of like watching somebody use a Mac :) On 2/4/2022 11:40 AM, Steve Smith wrote: I've used Session Manager for years, but haven't yet met anyone else who'd even heard of it. Of course, many of us would have to somehow convince a sysprog they s

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
r J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Sylvester [peter.sylves...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
that TSO did that for me. Thanks all, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? ISPF

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Friday, February 4, 2022 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? That depends. For an MVS SEND command, including a TSO SEND that does an MVS SEND, there is the syslog. For a TSO SEND that does a TPUT to another user, the only way that I know of requi

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Steve Smith
I've used Session Manager for years, but haven't yet met anyone else who'd even heard of it. Of course, many of us would have to somehow convince a sysprog they should allow something new, which is often difficult and onerous. I find the ability to keep a log of commands & messages to be very val

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? That depends. For an MVS SEND command, including a TSO SEND that does an MVS SEND, there is the syslog. For a TSO SEND that does a TPUT to another user, the only way that I know of requires that you be running under the TSO Sessi

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
we use EMS's Supervision product for systems consoles, we've defined some VTAM session also. I know the Console session have instant replay, we can go back in time and step back and review console log messages, I use this for IPL's of a new OS, I'm sure the other 3270 sessions we use for TSO/I

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Peter Sylvester
The good old TSO/E session manager may be your friend. We had also the equivalent of the VM/CMS TELL. That was 35 years ago during the EARN/BITNET time. Like IRC or WHATSAPP. I don't remember where The SM was developed, someone said it was in Italy. On 04/02/2022 17:58, Charles Mills wrote: I

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 08:58:37 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Is there a way to retrieve a recently received but now-off-the-screen SEND >message? > That sounds like a job for a terminal emulator: Log all screens to a file. x3270 appears to have such an option; I haven't tried it. Other emulators? M

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere? Is there a way to retrieve

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
In my previous life, I used to work with tso prof nointercom and instead wrote a small rexx to capture messages using outtrap and listbc command and store them in an ispf table. I was able to read them and delete them. The cons is that you don't get real time notifications. *| **Itschak Mugzach |

Re: Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I'm not sure if there's anyplace other than the broadcast datasets maybe, if the SEND was issued from a job, like from a notify then maybe check the syslog? Carmen On 2/4/2022 10:58 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Is there a way to retrieve a recently received but now-off-the-screen SEND message? I

Is there a TSO SEND history anywhere?

2022-02-04 Thread Charles Mills
Is there a way to retrieve a recently received but now-off-the-screen SEND message? I can't be the only person who has been heads down on something, hit Enter to get some pesky message out of the way, and then gone "wait ... what did that say?" Is there a way to retrieve a recently departed messa