Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Looking for a life hack to manage subsystem initialization modules. We recently discovered that our tape management (HSC/Oracle) SSN init routine was 12 years out of date. The problem is that the load library itself does not need to be in link list as it is STEPLIBed to in the HSC proc. But the

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Here's a wild thought. Create your own dummy subsystem with its own initialization routine that gets executed before any of the subsystems you're concerned about. This initialization routine can load the other modules into CSA, or even copy from one library to a linklist library. We have an ins

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Tom Brennan
I was thinking of similar craziness, but I'd replace the actual HSC init program with my own. Then like you implied, that code would dynamically allocate the DSN and do a LOAD DCB= to get the real module into memory. Then deallocate, restore registers (to what they were at entry), branch, and

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
A.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Keeping SSN init modules current I was thinking of similar craziness, but I'd replace the actual HSC init program with my own. Then like you implied, that code would dynamically allocate the DSN and do a LOAD DCB= to get the real module into memory. Then

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Anthony Thompson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Keeping SSN init modules current In poking around our stable of usermods, I find this usermod for ISPF: ++USERMOD (ISPF003) REWORK(20141710) . ++VER (Z038) FMID (HIF7N02) . ++MOVE (FLMIO24 ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-20 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
, 2017 23:05 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Keeping SSN init modules current > > Looking for a life hack to manage subsystem initialization modules. We > recently discovered that our tape management (HSC/Oracle) SSN init > routine was 12 years out of date. The problem is

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread Rob Schramm
> -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > > Sent: 20 September, 2017 23:05 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Keeping SSN init modules current > >

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:29:11 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >What if we created something like this: > >++USERMOD (HSC) REWORK(date) . >++VER (Z038) FMID (hsc-fmid) . >++MOVE (ssn-init-module) SYSLIB(hsc-loadlib) TOSYSLIB(LINKLIB) LMOD . > >wh

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:29:11 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > >What if we created something like this: > > > >++USERMOD (HSC) REWORK(date) . > >++VER (Z038) FMID (hsc-fmid) . > >++MOVE

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread John Eells
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Looking for a life hack to manage subsystem initialization modules. We recently discovered that our tape management (HSC/Oracle) SSN init routine was 12 years out of date. The problem is that the load library itself does not need to be in link list as it is STEPLIBed to

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
sday, September 21, 2017 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Keeping SSN init modules current Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Looking for a life hack to manage subsystem initialization modules. We > recently discovered that our tape management (HSC/Oracle) SSN init routin

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Keeping SSN init modules

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > 'Override' libraries give me the willies. War story. Shortly after I > started here, VTAM would not come up one Sunday after a maintenance IPL. > Turned out that some modified VTAM module(s) had been placed 'temporarily' > into an overrid

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-22 Thread Rob Schramm
The SMP/E method helps keep it on your "radar". Each OS upgrade will force the issue... unless your shop is frozen like a few on this list. Rob On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:37 AM John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson > > wrote: > > > 'Override' libraries give me

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:24:15 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >Here is an example of an SCLM module 'moved' from LPA to >link list by usermod ISPF003: Moving an SCLM module to SYS1.LINKLIB is one thing. I thought that the OP was talking about an ISV product. IMO, that would be quite another matt

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-22 Thread John Eells
John Eells wrote: For DIY, a ++MOVE usermod will get it on the books so you don't forget to update the module at system build time, but if the vendor ships JCLIN to change the module structure, SMP/E will, quite obligingly and without any fanfare, "put it back where it belongs" on your behalf,

Re: Keeping SSN init modules current

2017-09-22 Thread R.S.
In fact I don't understand the problem. What's so specific in SSN init module which cause a need for special treatment? I used to apply service or upgrade various subsystems (including STK software) and don't remeber anything special. Of course there ways and philosiphies of servicing software,