Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread David Crayford
On 20/02/2015 11:54 PM, John McKown wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Mark Post wrote: On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. The product may be beautiful, but the company that produces it most certainly is not. Every time my wife brings up the

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:57:22 -0700, Mark Post wrote: >The problem he was having isn't with the hardware, but what the >vendors layer on top of it. Since I wipe any system containing >Windows on it and install Linux, I don't really care much about that >aspect. There are problems with much of

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On 2/20/2015 at 11:28 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> ​ And I trust Linux hardware vendors more than those who get extra > >> money for installing "adware" and the like. > > > > I'm afraid this is the very same hardware. > > The problem he wa

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 11:28 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote: >> ​ And I trust Linux hardware vendors more than those who get extra >> money for installing "adware" and the like. > > I'm afraid this is the very same hardware. The problem he was having isn't with the hardware, but what the vendors layer on

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-02-20 o 19:01, Sam Siegel pisze: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:40 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-02-20 o 16:54, John McKown pisze: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Mark Post wrote: On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. The product may be b

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:40 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2015-02-20 o 16:54, John McKown pisze: > >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Mark Post wrote: >> >> On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: >> > Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. >>> The product may be beautiful, but the c

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-02-20 o 16:54, John McKown pisze: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Mark Post wrote: On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. The product may be beautiful, but the company that produces it most certainly is not. Every time my wife brings up

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 February 2015 at 08:00, Jon Butler wrote: > In fairness, since yesterday was Chinese New Year, Lenovo have decided to > come to the party after all: > > http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish Who knew - Lenovo has a Z-Series! Tony H. --

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:44:18AM -0600, John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin < > 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Here we go again: > > http://www.wired.com/2015/02/lenovo-superfish/ > > > > And, a classic (Ken Thompson ca. 1984): >

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: > > Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. > > The product may be beautiful, but the company that produces it most > certainly is not. Every time my wife brings up the idea of buying anything > from

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 08:32 AM, David Crayford wrote: > Barbarian! Macs are beautiful. The product may be beautiful, but the company that produces it most certainly is not. Every time my wife brings up the idea of buying anything from them I tell her "no." Mark Post -

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread David Crayford
On 20/02/2015 9:22 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:58:35 +0800, David Crayford wrote: But lately I've turned into a Mac weenie! I can do all my favorite *nix stuff using brew and I've got a much better UI compared to Ubuntu. Philistine. I place Apple below M$oft. Barbarian! M

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:58:35 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >But lately I've turned into a Mac weenie! I can do all my >favorite *nix stuff using brew and I've got a much better UI compared to >Ubuntu. Philistine. I place Apple below M$oft. One day whilst looking at tracing some kernel level inter

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread Jon Butler
In fairness, since yesterday was Chinese New Year, Lenovo have decided to come to the party after all: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread David Crayford
On 20/02/2015 8:44 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Here we go again: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/lenovo-superfish/ And, a classic (Ken Thompson ca. 1984): http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Here we go again: > http://www.wired.com/2015/02/lenovo-superfish/ > > And, a classic (Ken Thompson ca. 1984): > http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html > > -- gil > > ​The above i

Re: Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-19 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:32:53 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Here we go again: >http://www.wired.com/2015/02/lenovo-superfish/ The gall of these people is unbelievable. Hop on a plane that uses gogo for onboard wifi with one of these, and *really* expose yourself to a man-in-the middle attack.

Lenovo and Superfish

2015-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Here we go again: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/lenovo-superfish/ And, a classic (Ken Thompson ca. 1984): http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructi