Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/1/2016 2:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: "meaningless"! Hahaha! Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other measurement methods? For software contracts based on processor capacity, the only "meaningful" value is MSU (millions of service units per hour). --

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote: >THere used to be a rexx that calculates mips and msus. Try this link at the >bottom >http://bit.listserv.tsorexx.narkive.com/KXbgme2w/res-tso-rexx-rexx-to-calculate-mips-and-msu Yes, thanks! There is a nice REXX program there. If you are refering to Mark Zelden's site wh

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Itschak Mugzach
THere used to be a rexx that calculates mips and msus. Try this link at the bottom http://bit.listserv.tsorexx.narkive.com/KXbgme2w/res-tso-rexx-rexx-to-calculate-mips-and-msu Best, ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional On Thu, Dec 1,

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >That's why I used quotation marks for "meaningless". >MIPS definitions is weak, there's another measure: MSU. Yup. I'm familiar with MSU. >MSU is good, because it's known for public with no fee. >MSU is good, because there no multiple different MSU tables, there's one

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-12-01 o 11:56, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Note: every MIPS table can differ slightly due to "meaningless" value of MIPS. "meaningless"! Hahaha! Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other measurement methods? Also, what mixture o

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Note: every MIPS table can differ slightly due to "meaningless" value of MIPS. "meaningless"! Hahaha! Are there alternatives to MIPS? Service Units? Dispatch speed? Other measurement methods? Also, what mixture of instructions [on what hardware type!] are used to c

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.
IMHO the best way to obtain MIPS for given machine: 1. Find out the machine model and capacity marker. D M=CPU in z/OS or right click on CPC icon on HMC, or ...or some people working on it simply should know it. 2. Go to IBM site called LSPR and read "PCI index" which is MIPS value. Note: ev

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Edward Finnell
There are several good references. watsonwalker.com, SHARE, CMG and Performance Associates. I've always enjoyed Dr. H Pat's observations. http://researchr.org/alias/h.-pat-artis The IBM LSPR numbers are a good starting point if you have an idea of where you're going. You need to be cognizan

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Carlos Cordero wrote: >Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of >data-source and volumes estimation: What are you trying to solve? Rather consider Service Units. You got good replies about calculation methods and cautions about what MIPS is really. Just one fact t

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Schwab
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > The insatiable hunger for MIPS comes mainly from the non-mainframe world. > IBM uses MSU ratings for mainframes of all sizes, but folks who want to > compare other hardware can only speak MIPS. So there are various charts > available from

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Gerhard Adam
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula Along those lines, here are a couple of links I found using an internet for IBM Calculating MIPs and Service Units It would also help to

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: MIPS Calculation formula Along those lines, here are a couple of links I found using an internet for IBM Calculating MIPs and Service Units It would also

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
nal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Greg Dyck > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula > > > Is there some formula to calculate a MI

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Greg Dyck
Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of data-source and volumes estimation: Keep in mind that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed"... long used, usually misunderstood, and often abused. On a current processor I can write one program that ex

Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
ussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Carlos Cordero > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: MIPS Calculation formula > > Hi all, > > > Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next k

MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Carlos Cordero
Hi all, Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of data-source and volumes estimation: Data Type: SMF Records procesed: X million Data Volume: Y GB Total CP CPU utilization: Z seconds Approx zIIP utilization: 1344 seconds Avg CPU per record: .0xy seconds