Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > private equity owned companies are under intense pressure to cut corners > and do what ever is necessary to generate profits for their owners. In > the case of outsourced security clearances, they were found to be > filling out the pa

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
g...@gabegold.com (Gabe Goldberg) writes: > But I've profiled a couple gov agencies technology and I read > http://www.govtech.com/ -- which highlights mostly good news (many > interesting/innovative projects highlighted), though they also sure > cover disasters and project failures. And half the t

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-10 Thread Gabe Goldberg
I have no dog in this fight -- never worked for government, never dealt with Compuware, don't remember problems with CA. Issues with other vendors, sure, as have been abundantly described here. Closest I came to gov work was 14 years at Mitre Corporation -- not-for-profit government research th

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-07 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Making software purchase decisions based on emotional reactions to how the > vendor spends its marketing dollars is not a recipe for IT success. > > Compuware may well have determined after a long and detailed analysis that > the Super Bo

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
ike "Super Bowel" however. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice article about MF and Government > On

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-07 Thread Edward Gould
not know you worked there, you have my sympathies. Wish you would have asked before switching. Ed > > Best Regards, > > Sam Knutson | VP, Product Management | Compuware > @samknutson | linkedin.com/in/samknutson > samuel.knut...@compuware.com | M: +1 301 996-1318 > > -----Or

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-07 Thread Knutson, Samuel
: +1 301 996-1318 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 8:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice article about MF and Government > On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Rob Schramm

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/cookbook/bsppilot.html On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:46 PM, John McKown wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Edward Gould > wrote: > >> > On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: >> > >> > Ed, >> > >> > Typically I would agree. Most of my experience with C

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:06 PM, zMan wrote: > > Ed: Those points seem valid, at least subjectively (i.e., one might > disagree with them, but they do make *a* case that the article is crap). > But the Compuware aspect is still not relevant -- none of your points are > related to the Compuware-ness.

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread zMan
Ed: Those points seem valid, at least subjectively (i.e., one might disagree with them, but they do make *a* case that the article is crap). But the Compuware aspect is still not relevant -- none of your points are related to the Compuware-ness. Jeez, I sound like a Compuware shill here. Really, I

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: > > > > Ed, > > > > Typically I would agree. Most of my experience with Compuware in the > past > > has been about high prices and little negotiating. But has been a > > Mainframe cheerleade

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: > > Ed, > > Typically I would agree. Most of my experience with Compuware in the past > has been about high prices and little negotiating. But has been a > Mainframe cheerleader with the Devops stuff. Always seems on message. I > have been en

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:13 PM, zMan wrote: > > What does that mean? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and all that > -- just because you don't like the source doesn't mean it makes sense to > diss it unless you also disagree with it. Do you? > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Edward Goul

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-05 Thread Porowski, Kenneth
: [IBM-MAIN] Nice article about MF and Government [Default] On 4 Jun 2017 07:18:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote: >Rob/Charles/Ed:I should add that I'm no fan of Compuware either, and >have seen plenty of self-serving stuff they've writt

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-04 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 4 Jun 2017 07:18:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote: >Rob/Charles/Ed:I should add that I'm no fan of Compuware either, and have >seen plenty of self-serving stuff they've written that went way beyond >saying anything objectively useful. I did not fi

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-04 Thread zMan
Rob/Charles/Ed:I should add that I'm no fan of Compuware either, and have seen plenty of self-serving stuff they've written that went way beyond saying anything objectively useful. I did not find this article to be in that category, hence my comment. ---

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-03 Thread Charles Mills
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 7:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Nice article about MF and Government What does that mean? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and all that -- just because you don't like the source doesn't mea

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-03 Thread Rob Schramm
Ed, Typically I would agree. Most of my experience with Compuware in the past has been about high prices and little negotiating. But has been a Mainframe cheerleader with the Devops stuff. Always seems on message. I have been enjoying his posts for a while. Looking forward to working on a pr

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-03 Thread zMan
What does that mean? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and all that -- just because you don't like the source doesn't mean it makes sense to diss it unless you also disagree with it. Do you? On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > > Thanks, unfortunately it was written by a

Re: Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-03 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: > > https://www.fedscoop.com/what-is-legacy-it-and-how-scared-should-we-be-of-it/ > > Rob Schramm > -- Rob: Thanks, unfortunately it was written by a person from Compuware. From my prospective not a recommendation at all. Ed --

Nice article about MF and Government

2017-06-03 Thread Rob Schramm
https://www.fedscoop.com/what-is-legacy-it-and-how-scared-should-we-be-of-it/ Rob Schramm -- Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message