Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:28:03 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back? > Use PDSE or UNIX directories, both of which are fee of directory space limitations. -- gil -

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea! How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back? On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Michael Oujesky wrote: > > Wrong end, Passing gas occurs at a different orifice. > > Michael > > &

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back? On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Michael Oujesky wrote: > > Wrong end, Passing gas occurs at a different orifice. > > Michael > > > At 08:40 AM 12/21/2022, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > > >Burping ... because we are removin

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Wrong end, Passing gas occurs at a different orifice. Michael At 08:40 AM 12/21/2022, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive ac

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Hi Ed, REORG? Not bad... Better than unfoam, that's for sure. But I also like the defrag suggestion. I think I'm going with that. BTW... Merry Christmas! Dave At 12/23/2022 03:21 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/21/2022 3:16 AM, David Cole wrote: The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and tim

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Agree. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: 24 December 2022 07:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea! On 12/21/2022 3:16 AM, David

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

On 12/21/2022 3:16 AM, David Cole wrote: The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history... But then along came... well, actual compression! As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data compression. All it does is rearrange the physical location of members s

PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

How about in verb form compact (COMPACT in 8 capitalized characters or less), and in noun form compaction? Another option is simply to attach adjectives, for example: BCOMP - basic compression [ other options: SCOMP for simple compression, CCOMP for classic compression ] ECOMP - enhanced compres

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

On Dec 22, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Seymour J Metz mailto:sme...@gmu.edu>> wrote: IPOUPDAT updates in place; EDIT does not. FDR compaction consolidates extents; it does not degas PDSs. But FDRCOPY has a REORG function that can degas a PDS. -- Curtis Pew ITS Campus Solutions curtis@austin.utexas.

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

[p...@atsmigrations.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea! I think they are talking about two different things here. 1) recapturing the de-occupied space

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:28:58 -0600, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > >... I believe IBM's PDS update program shipped with software distributions > had code to update in place; > I believe that UADS is (was?) updated by such a technique. >... Why else did they come up with PDSEs ( and use VSAM )?

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Cezanne? On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:22 AM Jay Maynard wrote: > At one shop I worked for long ago, there was a proc named DEGAS that did > PDS compression. > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:41 AM Paul Gorlinsky > wrote: > > > Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS > > > >

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Defrag perhaps. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, December 21st, 2022 at 6:16 AM, David Cole wrote: > The notion of "

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

I prefer the current nomenclature. Oddly, my iPhone makes a shutter noise when I take a picture and there is no shutter. Sometimes the old names are fine. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org “To achieve great things two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Greetings to All, If there is going to be a change to the name (which I really doubt), then I suggest "reorganize" seems the best fit . (just as Joel C Ewing suggested) Other suggested names are just not the ones 'mainframers' usually use. Best Regards Dejan Stamatovic --

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

Cleanup On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 7:17 AM David Cole wrote: > The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored > history... But then along came... well, actual compression! > > As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data > compression. All it does is rearrange the physic

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea! The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history... But then along came... well, actual compression! As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data compressi

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

I think they are talking about two different things here. 1) recapturing the de-occupied space in the data portion of a PDS 2) consolidating the multiple extents of a PDS 1) Unless things have changed a lot, PDS inserts and replacements, and even those of the same size, always get put at the

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

The somewhat analogous process for KSDS called "reorganization". But I've heard "de-gas" used, albeit not formally. I have to dispute your contention that calling it "compression" is no longer an option. Changing general usage is generally not an option :-). sas On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:17 AM

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

:) DEGAS - Carmen On 12/21/2022 5:16 AM, David Cole wrote: The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history... But then along came... well, actual compression! As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data compression. All it does is rearrange the physical lo

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

At one shop I worked for long ago, there was a proc named DEGAS that did PDS compression. On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:41 AM Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS > > -- > For IB

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

To be consistent with rearranging file extents on DASD, it would be more appropriate to call it a "defrag", or borrow VSAM terminology and just call it a "reorganize".     Joel C Ewing On 12/21/22 05:16, David Cole wrote: The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history...

Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 06:16:14 -0500, David Cole wrote: >The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored >history... But then along came... well, actual compression! > >As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data >compression. All it does is rearrange the physical locati

PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history... But then along came... well, actual compression! As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data compression. All it does is rearrange the physical location of members so as to eliminate the holes (foam? gas?) t