Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-06 Thread Graham Harris
As mentioned already, its all about the TLB. With memory intensive tasks using large pages, it lessens the usage of TLB from what would otherwise be the case, and that potentially benefits (by DAT avoidance) not only the task using large pages, but also every other workload utilising that TLB

Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Markus Haselbach
Hello, we start using LFAREA (1M pages) with z/OS 1.13 and DB2 10 on z196. From IBM I read: Using large pages can improve performance for some applications by reducing the overhead of dynamic address translation. We wonder how to measure this performance improvement. What we're trying now is

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Anthony Hirst
I've rolled it out into 2 of our test LPARs and have been using the HIS 113 records to try and measure the improvement. Specifically looking at the percentage of TLB miss processor cycles. I haven't seen an improvement using that metric, going into production this month so stay tuned. On Thu,

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 May 2013 06:07:13 -0500, Markus Haselbach markus.haselb...@credit-suisse.com wrote: Hello, we start using LFAREA (1M pages) with z/OS 1.13 and DB2 10 on z196. From IBM I read: Using large pages can improve performance for some applications by reducing the overhead of dynamic address

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Anthony Hirst ahir...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date: 05/02/2013 10:11 AM Subject:Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
: Thursday, May 02, 2013 16:30 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ? I suspect that any real performance gains will happen with the EC12 processor equipped with flash memory as a paging device. Vacation Notice: None Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance Capacity

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 May 2013 10:30:09 -0400, Thomas H Puddicombe tpudd...@csc.com wrote: I suspect that any real performance gains will happen with the EC12 processor equipped with flash memory as a paging device. Vacation Notice: None Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance Capacity Planning CSC The

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
Subject:Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu On Thu, 2 May 2013 10:30:09 -0400, Thomas H Puddicombe tpudd...@csc.com wrote: I suspect that any real performance gains will happen with the EC12 processor equipped with flash

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/2/2013 7:18 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: Obviously there is an underlying CPU usage improvement, but I'm not sure where it would show up in (*master*)? Better TLB coverage means fewer DAT translations thus faster execution. The CPU savings should show up directly in the TCB/SRB time of

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/2/2013 7:47 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: The zEC12 allows large pages to be paged to flash. While that may lessen the need for the total amount of real storage, how can it be better performing than fixed 1M pages that are the only option for large pages prior to the zEC12 with flash? LOL.

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-02 Thread Mike Schwab
I think one person found a lot of OpenMVS programs being repeatedly loaded. So they wrote a little program that LOADed the object modules into the LF area and ended. They now remain in core until shutdown. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it