Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-27 Thread Jon Perryman
System monitors (e.g. Omegamon) can detect when a job is above or below a specified threshhold. Use your automation product to detect this situation and take the dump / provide notification. If you don't have a monitor, then output from the MVS D A, command and calculate the difference

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-27 Thread Scott Ford
Jon, Are you working for a ISV ? I am curious Regards, Scott From: Jon Perryman Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎46‎ ‎PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List System monitors (e.g. Omegamon) can detect when a job is above or below a specified threshhold. Use your

Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Maybe the PFA can help us, but I don't know how : We have a long running USS process, so called stress test.After some hours, stops to use CPU or any resource, and after about an hour wait , running normal again. The problem is , that this slow down occurs in the night, or early in the

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Schwab
If you use ADRDSSU to backup OMVS files, the files are quiesced during the backup. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi Maybe the PFA can help us, but I don't know how : We have a long running USS process, so called stress

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Thank you, we know this and we have some alerts during this quiesce period, but this slow down is not during backup. On 16.04.2014 10:00, Mike Schwab wrote: If you use ADRDSSU to backup OMVS files, the files are quiesced during the backup. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Miklos

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Miklos Szigetvari wrote: we have some alerts during this quiesce period, but this slow down is not during backup. How in the first place do you see the slow down? Perhaps your reply could yield a good answer to you question. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
The CPU usage for the process , address space , drops from about 70% to 0%, the process writes to some log files , 100-300 message pro minute, in this period no message in this logs. On 16.04.2014 10:20, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Miklos Szigetvari wrote: we have some alerts during

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Staller, Allan
JAVA garbage collection? snip The CPU usage for the process , address space , drops from about 70% to 0%, the process writes to some log files , 100-300 message pro minute, in this period no message in this logs. On 16.04.2014 10:20, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ? Hi Maybe the PFA can help us, but I don't know how : We have a long running USS process, so called stress test.After some hours, stops to use CPU or any resource, and after about an hour wait , running normal again. The problem is , that this slow down

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Bob Shannon
Can the PFA help here , or any other idea how we can detect this ? Try RMF Monitor III. It maintains history so that you can look at the system and the work that was running (or stalling) in the past. Just allocate large collection datasets so that the data is still there in the morning. Bob

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread John Eells
Others have offered diagnostic suggestions, but to respond to your original query: PFA monitors a number of things, but time used CPU per address space is not among them. For a list of PFA's checks, see Chapter 9 in z/OS Problem Management (the 2.1 version is here:

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Have you got multiple periods in the associated WLM Service Class? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 04:27 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ? The CPU

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
O.k. so no PFA for this. It is a test machine, so during the complete stress test, this was the only active process, so no WLM or something like this. Monitored with RMF and the system CPU also dropped to a few percent. Seems to me , the process is in wait , I would like to get DUMP's and