Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-26 Thread Pommier, Rex
ssion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:48:30 -0500, Rebecca Martin wrote: >The OP is referring to a shop that reinstalls z/OS as a way to get to a

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:48:30 -0500, Rebecca Martin wrote: >The OP is referring to a shop that reinstalls z/OS as a way to get to a >current RSU level. In the years in between releases of z/OS, they reorder >everything at a higher maintenance level and then do a complete reinstall. > >Has

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-26 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Lots of extra (unnecessary work) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rebecca Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend [CAUTION: This Email

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-25 Thread Burrell, Todd
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rebecca Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 3:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend The OP is referring to a shop that reinstalls z/OS as a way to get to a current RSU level. In the years

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-25 Thread Rebecca Martin
The OP is referring to a shop that reinstalls z/OS as a way to get to a current RSU level. In the years in between releases of z/OS, they reorder everything at a higher maintenance level and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone ever heard of this method for putting on maintenance? Can you

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread Colin Paice
I know of one very large customer with many hundred of LPARs, changed they way they did maintenance. If they had MVSA, MVSB,MCSC,MVSD, they created a new LPAR MVSE, with all the maintenance of all products on it. They added it to the sysplex, and when it proved to work, they removed(killed)

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread Roger W Suhr
Maintenance: Asking For a Friend In a Sysplex environment it is possible to shift the workload off of one system so that it can be IPLed at any time, not just on weekends. IMO, customers that are stuck in the old way of doing things should not serve as a model for others. -- Tom Marchant On Tue

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
UA.EDU Subject: Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend Hi Tom, Can you workload shift running Jobs from one LPAR to another? (Please note too this customer's Initiator setup is different on every LPAR.) Regards, David On 2023-07-18 09:52, Tom Marchant wrote: > In a Sysplex environment it is

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, Can you workload shift running Jobs from one LPAR to another? (Please note too this customer's Initiator setup is different on every LPAR.) Regards, David On 2023-07-18 09:52, Tom Marchant wrote: In a Sysplex environment it is possible to shift the workload off of one system so that

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread Tom Marchant
In a Sysplex environment it is possible to shift the workload off of one system so that it can be IPLed at any time, not just on weekends. IMO, customers that are stuck in the old way of doing things should not serve as a model for others. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 06:52:02 -0400,

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, One of my customers decided (many years ago) to upgrade software/apply maintenance once a year (on each of their 4 complexes). There are not enough weekends in the year to do this more frequently (due to other groups doing upgrades and "blocked out" weekends). Regards, David On

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-18 Thread Brian Westerman
All RSU's are not created equal. The quarterly ones (i.e. 2303 2306 2309 2312), are tested by IBM differently and tend to be "easier" to install. There is NEVER a good reason to skip maintenance for a long period of time. Only doing maintenance when you install a new copy of the OS is a

Re: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
2023 3:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > There is a shop where the current philosophy is to not put on any > maintenance other than a PTF here and there if it is needed for a problem. But > no RSU

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-17 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Watkins Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend There is a shop where the current philosophy is to not put on any maintenance other than a PTF here and there if it is needed for a problem. But no RSU maintenance

RSU Maintenance: Asking For a Friend

2023-07-17 Thread Michael Watkins
There is a shop where the current philosophy is to not put on any maintenance other than a PTF here and there if it is needed for a problem. But no RSU maintenance. Instead of maintenance, the plan is to just reinstall z/OS and all related products anytime they want to refresh the maintenance