Re: [IBM External] Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 06:54:09 +, Martin Packer wrote: > >Between steps can't be pipes, can be VIO. Between jobs can be pipes, can't >be VIO. > Pipes could work between steps if the PIPE SUBSYS has an implied ELASTIC stage. But that's just reinventing VIO. PIPE SUBSYS must do some buffering to

Re: [IBM External] Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-28 Thread Martin Packer
Between steps can't be pipes, can be VIO. Between jobs can be pipes, can't be VIO. That second sentence depends on the ability to schedule two jobs (possibly originally steps of the same job) alongside each other. Fun stuff but / and somewhat complex - which is what inspired me to start writing

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:39:17 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote: > >Intra-JOB pipe - This would be similar to VIO; it doesn't exist otherwise. >I think it would be a great feature. > Between steps? One might just as well use VIO. -- gil ---

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-28 Thread David Crayford
dcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://anchor.fm/marna-walle Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: "David Crayford" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 28/09/2021 08:17 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: The Business Case for BatchPipe

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-28 Thread Martin Packer
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 28/09/2021 08:17 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...) Sent by:"IBM Mainframe Discussion List" This first question I would ask is does IBM actually "own" BatchPipes o

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-28 Thread David Crayford
This first question I would ask is does IBM actually "own" BatchPipes or did the flog it off to an ISV like most of their other software? If it's the latter then they will be in no position to make it freely available. Secondly, rather than pine for something that isn't available why not just

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-27 Thread Hobart Spitz
Gil wrote: >On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 07:26:51 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote: >>I'm going to pivot here. I'm putting my support behind putting BatchPipes >>in the z/OS base (rather than just Pipes). If you agree, please >>write/support such a requirement and/or educate your management to get >>interested.

Re: The Business Case for BatchPipes in the z/OS Base (was: ... Pipes ...)

2021-09-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 07:26:51 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote: >I'm going to pivot here. I'm putting my support behind putting BatchPipes >in the z/OS base (rather than just Pipes). If you agree, please >write/support such a requirement and/or educate your management to get >interested. BatchPipes inc