Re: z/OS Processor Requirements (was Re: SMP/E Tutorial)

2017-03-29 Thread John Eells
John Eells wrote: R.S. wrote: Off-topic note: the document mention z/OS 2.2 can be ran on z9 machine, which is untrue. You are, of course, correct. The book has been updated but not the link to the new level of it. Here is the new level of the book: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e

z/OS Processor Requirements (was Re: SMP/E Tutorial)

2017-03-29 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: Off-topic note: the document mention z/OS 2.2 can be ran on z9 machine, which is untrue. You are, of course, correct. The book has been updated but not the link to the new level of it. Here is the new level of the book: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z3f113.pdf -

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-29 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:10:16 -0400, John Eells wrote: >Dan Kalmar wrote: >> >> I'm reading the User's Guide section on adding a new FUNCTION SYSMOD: >> >> So the MCS statements are listed, but why on earth there is no mention of >> the JCL required to process the MCS input ? > >I think what you a

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-29 Thread R.S.
Off-topic note: the document mention z/OS 2.2 can be ran on z9 machine, which is untrue. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2017-03-27 o 18:52, John Eells pisze: Dan Kalmar wrote: Can you still use PROGRAM elements for LE based modules ? Yes, provided you can bind with the *low

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-28 Thread Charles Mills
les -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E Tutorial Dan Kalmar wrote: > This may be a dumb question so forgive me in advanc

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-28 Thread John Eells
Dan Kalmar wrote: This may be a dumb question so forgive me in advance. I'm reading the User's Guide section on adding a new FUNCTION SYSMOD: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.gim3000/fsmod.htm So the MCS statements are listed, but why on earth there i

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:47:41 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >If you BUILDMCS your current HBB FMID, you will doubtless find >examples like this one: > >++PROGRAM(IWMAM431) >SYSLIB(SIEALNKE) >ALIAS(LARM431) >DISTLIB(AIEALNKE) RELFILE(9) . > Which answers the question asked about new fu

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread John Eells
Dan Kalmar wrote: Thanks. Can you provide an example of a PROGRAM definition in a new Function SYSMOD or point me to such example? Note: Many followers of this list do not use an NNTP newsreader. You will probably get faster (and more) responses if you post to the list rather than to the ne

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread John Eells
Dan Kalmar wrote: Can you still use PROGRAM elements for LE based modules ? Yes, provided you can bind with the *lowest* level Language Environment stubs you need, as I'm assured they are compatible with later levels of z/OS. (The level you need should define your minium supported z/OS lev

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread John Eells
Dan Kalmar wrote: I will look into these suggestions. Personally I'd rather stay away from doing link edits during the install as you can't be sure what gets pulled in. For many years I worked for a large software vendor and although I never had to deal with the packaging aspect of products, I

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Phil Smith
Ah, good - maybe either (a) we were using old doc or, more likely, (b) we misunderstood. We have some things like SAMPLIB that aren't under SMP/E control, have been meaning to fix it, and this (perceived) limitation was standing in the way of making it easy! ---

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Edward Gould
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > (I don't see the OP. Did this thread originate from Usenet?) > > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:31:24 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >> One thing that surprised me (and continues to be a pain) is t

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E Tutorial As you can tell from my previous post I am neither an SMP/E expert nor an SMP/E fan but I think you can have two BANANAs provided they are different kinds of things. Going into different destinations (target PDS) is not enough, they have

Re: (External):Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Charles Mills Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E Tutorial As you can tell from my previous post I am neither an SMP/E expert nor an SMP/E fan but I think you can have two BANANAs provided they are different kinds of things. Going into

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(I don't see the OP. Did this thread originate from Usenet?) On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:31:24 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >One thing that surprised me (and continues to be a pain) is that a given >package can only have one part with a given name. ... Seems kind of primitive >in this day and age, espe

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
Smith Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E Tutorial One thing that surprised me (and continues to be a pain) is that a given package can only have one part with a given name. So if you have a sample program called BANANA and quite reasonably wanted to h

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Phil Smith
One thing that surprised me (and continues to be a pain) is that a given package can only have one part with a given name. So if you have a sample program called BANANA and quite reasonably wanted to have a .JCL library with a sample job to run it called BANANA, and the source in a .SOURCE libra

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E Tutorial On 3/27/2017 7:52 AM, Dan Kalmar wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good tutorial for using SMP/E to package a new > product for distribution ? Not so much a tutorial, but tr

Re: SMP/E Tutorial

2017-03-27 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 3/27/2017 7:52 AM, Dan Kalmar wrote: Can anyone recommend a good tutorial for using SMP/E to package a new product for distribution ? Not so much a tutorial, but try "IBM, Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products" here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/gimpkg80.pdf Some pe