Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-10-02 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
I do ... I spend most of my day mentoring new sysprogs for Kyndryl ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-10-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
er 30, 2022 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability BTW you and GP were my best mentors of that time Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
BTW you and GP were my best mentors of that time Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Gorlinsky [p...@atsmigrations.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability You can not believe how many "TAPES" critical to the success of a DR test have been lost or forgotten. The major one, the standal

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
You can not believe how many "TAPES" critical to the success of a DR test have been lost or forgotten. The major one, the standalone IPL utility tape. BTW the business that I am in today is DR/BC and Virtual Tape Appliance. My z/Appliance device emulates FICON attached 3480, 3490 and 3590 tapes

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
f of Paul Gorlinsky [p...@atsmigrations.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability Hello Seymour, The best thing to do is to turn this over to the lawyers. It is a breach of contract and the vendor needs to be held a

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Hello Seymour, The best thing to do is to turn this over to the lawyers. It is a breach of contract and the vendor needs to be held accountable. I have done two DR tests in the past thirty days and several of the vendors DONT require and immediately Key change. However, one vendor does and the

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
[IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Martin Packer [martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 4:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability “Customers do the darnedest things…” 😊 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ed J

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Mark A. Brooks
FYI, XCF does provide a "sysplex ID" that can be used to uniquely identify a sysplex for the life of the sysplex. That could be used to distinguish between two different sysplexes with the same name. A new sysplex ID is generated each time the sysplex starts fresh. ---

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Martin Packer
“Customers do the darnedest things…” 😊 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ed Jaffe Date: Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 22:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability On 9/29/2022 5:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: > Right, I&#x

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/29/2022 5:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... Sysplex names are not necessarily unique -- test sysplex or DR site could be

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Matt Hogstrom
> On Sep 29, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: > > Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. > Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense > SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... > Sysplex names are not necessarily unique -- test sysplex o

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Mark A. Brooks
Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... Sysplex names are not necessarily unique -- test sysplex or DR site could be using the same name.

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Matt Hogstrom [m...@hogstrom.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability We had an internal debate about the stability of SYSNAME

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
That’s a good question … I hope I used the term z/OS instance and not LPAR in my question. A z/OS instance could be run on different CECs and LPARs at different times. There is no canonical UUID for an instance but I think there is likely an industry best practice that could be relied upon. M

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Martin Packer
If it moves to another machine is it still the same LPAR? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Date: Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 13:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability We had an internal debate about the

SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
We had an internal debate about the stability of SYSNAME and smfID in a sysplex. The discussion was that smfID is not stable and can be changed and that there can be more than one system in a sysplex with the same sysname / smfid. I haven’t had a chance to try it out but the argument seems to