Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Relson
>Is it possible to delete a E-MLPA module dynamically ? No. Why would you want to? It is possible to delete a dynamic-LPA module dynamically but it is almost always a system integrity error to do so because it is often impossible to be certain that there is no code executing within it

Re: [External] Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-28 Thread Peter
hat what the first P in PLPA means - pageable? The FLPA > > modules are page fixed and not subject to page-outs. > > > > Rex > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > > Sent: Frid

Re: [External] Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-21 Thread Pommier, Rex
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Searching MLPA module "All modules in the PLPA are treated as refreshable, and are not paged-out. This action reduces the overall p

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-21 Thread Joe Monk
; Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 1:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [External] Re: Searching MLPA module > > The MLPA is key zero and it's bad form to put n

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Discussion List on behalf of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching MLPA module Unlike PLPA, it is subject to page out. Are you saying that PLPA pages are fixed and can't be paged out? Isn't that what the first P in PLPA

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-21 Thread Pommier, Rex
List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Searching MLPA module The MLPA is key zero and it's bad form to put nonrefreshable code there, but it is not always read only. Unlike PLPA, it is subject to page out

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-20 Thread Peter Relson
So MLPA module can be loaded using SETPROG LPA ? No. I don't know how what I wrote would have given you that impression. MLPA is what is identified by the IEALPAxx parmlib member. SETPROG LPA is used to add to dynamic LPA. PLPA, MLPA, FLPA, and dynamic LPA comprise LPA. Peter Relson z/OS

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-19 Thread Itschak Mugzach
The command is used to load modules into the Dynamic LPA that resies in (e)csa. *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**:

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-19 Thread Peter
So MLPA module can be loaded using SETPROG LPA ? On Sat, 19 Sep, 2020, 4:32 pm Peter Relson, wrote: > > We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to > trace from which dataset it was loaded. > > Is there a way to know the dataset name from which or where it is

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-19 Thread Peter Relson
We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to trace from which dataset it was loaded. Is there a way to know the dataset name from which or where it is saved ? If it is truly in "MLPA" then it was specified in your IEALPAxx parmlib member which identifies the data

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Friday, September 18, 2020 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching MLPA module "The MLPA is read-only, unless NOPROT is specified on the MLPA system parameter." So, the default is read-only. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Joe Monk
me Discussion List on behalf > of Joe Monk > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:55 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Searching MLPA module > > Thats incorrect. MLPA is read only. > > Joe > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM Itschak Mugzach < &

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Joe Monk Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching MLPA module Thats incorrect. MLPA is read only. Joe On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM Itschak Mugzach < 0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > MLPA

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
By default, yes. OP can specify the NOPROT option on the MLPA=xx specification in IEASYSxx. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday,

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Joe Monk
Thats incorrect. MLPA is read only. Joe On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM Itschak Mugzach < 0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > MLPA is in CSA and is modifiable while lpa is read only. > > בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 17:17, מאת Peter ‏: > > > Apology for being ingorant ..

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Greg Price
On 2020-09-19 12:17 AM, Peter wrote: if LPA and MLPA are same LPA covers PLPA, MLPA, FLPA and DLPA. PLPA is built when CLPA is specified at IPL time. MLPA and FLPA are built every IPL time when required - they may have zero size if no modules are loaded there - the modules to be load in

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2020 10:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching MLPA module MLPA is in CSA and is modifiable while lpa is read only. בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 17:17, מאת Peter ‏: > Apology for being ingorant .. if LPA and MLPA are same then why are they > being placed in a differ

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Itschak Mugzach
MLPA is in CSA and is modifiable while lpa is read only. בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 17:17, מאת Peter ‏: > Apology for being ingorant .. if LPA and MLPA are same then why are they > being placed in a different parmlibs ? Aren't any difference between MLPA > and LPA ? > > On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020,

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Peter
Apology for being ingorant .. if LPA and MLPA are same then why are they being placed in a different parmlibs ? Aren't any difference between MLPA and LPA ? On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 5:56 pm Peter, wrote: > We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to > trace from which

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Peter
We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to trace from which dataset it was loaded. Is there a way to know the dataset name from which or where it is saved ? On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 4:16 pm Itschak Mugzach, < 0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Peter, There are some 3rd party products that load modules to modified LPA (CSA or ECSA) as they start. They do it dynamically so if they don't start, you save the storage. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Peter Relson
Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? What do you mean by "search the loaded MLPA module"? A program can use CSVQUERY to locate the address of a module in LPA (whether PLPA, MLPA, FLPA, or dynamic LPA), just as it can use LOAD and then DELETE (CSVQUERY

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 07:43:21 +0400 Peter wrote: :>Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is :>it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a :>ignorant question) :>We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just trying to understand

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Rob Scott
If you have SDSF for z/OS 2.4 you can use the "LPD" command (Link Pack Directory) Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Sent: 18 September 2020 04:43 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Searching MLPA module

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-18 Thread Itschak Mugzach
PROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > > of Peter > > Sent:

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Peter
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Peter > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Searching MLPA module > > Hello > > Is there

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
11:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Searching MLPA module Hello Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a ignorant question) We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Peter, To load into dynamic lpa use setprog,add,modname= To test if already loaded use d prog,lpa,modname= There are macro calls for both if you want to do that from a program. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 6:43, מאת Peter ‏: > Hello > > Is there any utility which can help to

Searching MLPA module

2020-09-17 Thread Peter
Hello Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a ignorant question) We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just trying to understand if it's possible to load it dynamically without the