Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3044928827063159.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/05/2013 at 08:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to checkpoint the >job when it reaches the limlt and allow the user to insert more >coins and continue? Submit a requirement; it sou

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2091430682-1378385115-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-518132742-@b4.c1.bise6.blackberry>, on 09/05/2013 at 12:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL said: >Who are you to determine the needs of the user (whom you are >[supposedly] supporting). There's only one user at your shop? Or you only support

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Brian Westerman
Sorry for the marketing spiel, but we market system automation products that do everything that has been discussed in this thread so far. We also have a spool management product that would allow you to automatically offload the output based on any of a great number of factors, from the number o

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Thank you for answers, I agree with the suggestions , increase the SPOOL size, and/or use some external writer, or short term SYSOUT classes. Unfortunately currently I'm not in the position to make this changes,or persuade the user to change his jobs, but in the SUBMIT job I can change the ca

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/05/2013 03:01 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2013-09-05 08:57, Miklos Szigetvari pisze: >> Hi >> >> I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several >> hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. >> It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . >> I would need some

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
tools http://syzygyinc.com/SyzSpool.htm Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool I

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Perryman
If you have an automation product, then you can use it to take the action needed. You could trigger off of the job submitted rate or the JES number of lines exceeded message. You could place jobs on hold. Jon Perryman. > > From: Miklos Szigetvari > > >I have t

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-09-05 14:45, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice. No, it is very good practice. Of course devil is in the details, I'm don't mean restrictive, small values, rather "fuse" protecting whole JES against SPOOL space exhaustion. I did met

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/5/2013 7:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:11 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: Or the other way round: the users can get all the spoolspace they want, when they pay it. Only the sun rises for free, as we say here. Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:11 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: >Or the other way round: the users can get all the spoolspace they want, when >they pay it. Only the sun rises for free, as we say here. > Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to checkpoint the job when it reaches the lim

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 14:45 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 14:45 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice. Who are you to

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
itter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: "Vernooij, CP - SPLXM" Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:36:50 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool What is the problem: Hund

Re: Antwort: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Thruput Manager plus any of the "standard" sysout archival tools (CA-VIEW, LRS PAGECENTER,.) ? > I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several > hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. > It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . > I would need so

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Miklos Szigetvari wrote: >I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred >tests jobs, for different application tests. >It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . >I would need some simple tool to manage this: >- submit again and again , only a a limited num

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-09-05 08:57, Miklos Szigetvari pisze: Hi I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . I would need some simple tool to manage this: - submit again and aga

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool Hi I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . I would need some simple tool to manage this: - submit again and

Re: Antwort: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
check the return codes. Cheers Michael Von:Miklos Szigetvari An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Datum: 2013-09-05 08:57 Betreff:Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Hi I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time

Antwort: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Michael Klaeschen
-05 08:57 Betreff:Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Hi I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . I

Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred tests jobs, for different application tests. It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc . I would need some simple tool to manage this: - submit again and again , only a a limited number of jobs. - if a job is