Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5227567289602393.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/12/2013 at 01:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Sam said diff3 _allows_ a 3 way merge, which is correct, not that it >_performs_ a 3-way merge, which you appear to be imputing to him A normal reading of "diff3 allows a 3 way merge

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:17:31 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 04/10/2013 at 08:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >>On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:52:55 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: > >>diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the or

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <8635543010896767.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/10/2013 at 08:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:52:55 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: >diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the original source

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:52:55 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>>on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: >>> diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the original source and 2 different updates to the original source. >>> >>>No; it merges two updates. >>> >>ksh:1+ man diff3 >>Reforma

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <6384885757679699.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 04/09/2013 at 06:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:24:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: >> >>>diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the original source and 2

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:24:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: > >>diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the original source and 2 >>different updates to the original source. > >No; it merges two updates. > ksh:1+ man diff3 Reformatting page. Please

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 04/07/2013 at 04:57 PM, Sam Siegel said: >Patch is the unix version of SUPERC that shows the delta between >source files. ITYM diff; the patch utility applies an update. >diff3 allows a 3 way merge between the original source and 2 >different updates to the original source. No; it

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 05:49:58 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >In addition, I suspect/believe that update-by-replacement encourages more >changes than necessary: that is, for 30 years, when I've made a change using >XEDIT in UPDATE mode, I've ALWAYS looked at the resulting update before >committing it,

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Smith
+1 for CMS UPDATE, 45+ years old and going strong. I've been irritated by the update-by-replacement theology since I first encountered it. The ability to easily look and see what lines were hit by an update without having to re-run diffs (which takes a long time, relatively speaking, especially

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 22:27:15 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On 7 April 2013 20:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> Slight correction. The UNIX "version of SUPERC" is "diff". (I suspect >> they use similar algorithms.) > >Not so similar, as you pointed out back in January: > >>On 8 January 2013 15:02, Pa

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 April 2013 20:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Slight correction. The UNIX "version of SUPERC" is "diff". (I suspect > they use similar algorithms.) Not so similar, as you pointed out back in January: >On 8 January 2013 15:02, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >That's somewhat old technology. If from

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 16:57:23 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: > > >On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > >> > > >> > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/patch.html > >> > >> > >> > >> I read this rapidly. I'm

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 16:57:23 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: >On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: >> > >> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/patch.html >> >> >> >> I read this rapidly. I'm trying to understand certain headaches "we" have >> with certain produc

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > From: Paul Gilmartin > Date: 04/07/2013 06:15 PM > > > > On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 18:08:54 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: > > > >As a result this wonderful language, Java, has no sequence numbers, can > be > >wider than your wide LCD panels. No

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Paul Gilmartin Date: 04/07/2013 06:15 PM On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 18:08:54 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: > >As a result this wonderful language, Java, has no sequence numbers, can be >wider than your wide LCD panels. Now you need to make a change to >something because of a bug report. How d

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 18:08:54 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: > >As a result this wonderful language, Java, has no sequence numbers, can be >wider than your wide LCD panels. Now you need to make a change to >something because of a bug report. How do you note the fix? And how do you >send it? So far as I

Re: Sequence Numbrs (was 32760? (was: PARMDD?))

2013-04-07 Thread Steve Thompson
From: Paul Gilmartin Date: 04/07/2013 05:40 PM But do sequence numbers have a lick of value today? > Shmuel and some of my coworkers think so. A telling observation is that few editors other than from the IBM culture implement them. BASIC used them both for editing and GOTO targets. In