Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-07 Thread John Gilmore
There are differences of opinion about this among coloro che sanno, but IBM-MAIN is almost certainly not the appropriate forum for pursuing them. My substantive particular point was anyway that the three adjectives 'aweful', 'pompous', and 'artificial' once had, and in some contexts still have, no

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/05/2013 at 05:14 PM, John Gilmore said: >The Shakespearean epithet "aw[e]ful, pompous, and artificial" was >adapted by Charles II, who used it, with highly complimentary intent, >to describe his first impressions of Sir Christopher Wren's St Paul's >Cathedral. It is certainly true

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-06 Thread David Stokes
JG writes: Long, long ago, when the late C. S. Lewis spent a year at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton... You should definitely notify IAS that they left such a personage as C S Lewis off their "A Community of Scholars" list http://www.ias.edu/people/cos/search?lastname=Lewis --

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread Tony Babonas
Hilarious, and understandable to boot! Well done, MacNeil. On 7/5/2013 10:40 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: It's rarely the grammar, but frequently the vocabulary and the historical and literary references. But I sometimes learn from looking them up, and all in all I consider the style well within t

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread John Gilmore
The Shakespearean epithet "aw[e]ful, pompous, and artificial" was adapted by Charles II, who used it, with highly complimentary intent, to describe his first impressions of Sir Christopher Wren's St Paul's Cathedral. Long, long ago, when the late C. S. Lewis spent a year at the Institute for Advan

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0936283674477258.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 07/05/2013 at 10:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >"Uncleftish Beholding". Technically flawed, but perfectly understandable. OTOH, see "awful, pompous, and artificial" in "A Tragedy of Errors". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread John McKown
Agreed. My take is generally if I don't understand the message, I ignore it. May as well post in Sanskrit. Unless I am personally fascinated, I won't bother. I may miss something, but eventually somebody will take pity on us poor U.S. English-only wackos and likely explain it is simpler words. On

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread John Gilmore
Style is personal. We are all creatures of our different experiences. I seldom comment upon them, but I find Mr. MacNeil's grammatical errors in Canadian/British English every bit as grating as he finds my vocabulary. As I have suggested here before, no one need took at my posts who does not wan

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:40:14 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >It is never the receiver's fault if the message is truly not understood; it's >the sender's. > http://xkcd.com/1133/ Or even to eschew alien words: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/alt.language.artificial/ZL4e3fD

Re: Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>It's rarely the grammar, but frequently the vocabulary and the historical and >literary references. But I sometimes learn from looking them up, and all in all I consider the style well within the charter of thls list. But, the purpose of communication is to communicate. Deliberately masking/ob

Style (was: Announcing PCRE 8.33 ...)

2013-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:58:32 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 5/07/2013 9:53 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> The intellectual difficulty of learning to use regular expressions is >> being greatly exaggerated here. The principles involved could be >> written out, for the convenience of notionally reacti